Scream 3

[00:00:00] This week, we're wrapping up our Scream series with a thrilling conclusion, Scream 3. The 2000 Slasher sequel brings twists, turns, and plenty of ghostface drama. Let's dive into the finale of this iconic horror trilogy and see how it holds up.

[00:00:31] Fees Podcast, I'm Jackie. And I'm Danielle, and we're just two best friends and ex-blockbuster employees rewatching some of the best and worst movies from the late 90s and early 2000s. This week, we're concluding our journey through the Scream franchise with Scream 3. Now, you might be saying, but there's more Scream movies. That is true, but not in our time frame. So, for us, we bid a do.

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[00:02:26] So happy to be back. I'm absolutely obsessed with this movie, so I'm so excited to talk about it. Yay! We're so happy to have you back. And if you want to learn more about Leah, check out her Pleasantville episode and this week's bonus episode where we rank the entire Scream franchise. Oof. Rough. Let's get into the synopsis of the movie. Scream 3 takes the horror to Hollywood.

[00:02:54] We're not in Woodsboro anymore. As Sydney, Gail, and Dewey reunite to uncover Ghostface's latest murderous plot. This time, the action centers around the set of Stab 3, the fictional movie within the movie, where the cast and crew are targeted by the masked killer. The movie stars Neve Campbell, Courtney Cox, David Arquette, Parker Posey, and Patrick Dempsey.

[00:03:20] It was directed by Wes Craven yet again, but written by Aaron Kruger? Freddy Kruger's doppelganger? I don't know. The movie's characters are based on the characters created by Kevin Williamson, and you can currently watch it on Max. But before we start, let's get into our ratings rewind. So you know the drill.

[00:03:45] Before we get into the movie, we'll reveal the rating our Y2K versions of ourselves would give. Then at the end, we'll see if our current selves agree with our initial rating. Our scale consists of, would buy it, would buy it again. The best woodplay and repeat. Five day rental. Wood watch again. Two day rental. Eh, nothing to write home about. It's okay. And same day rental. Burn that bitch to the ground. It's trash.

[00:04:17] So Leah, what is your Y2K rating of Scream 3? Would buy again, for sure. I remember the day that my dad took me to the store to buy this DVD. I think it was actually like my first DVD ever because I remember we had just gotten the DVD player. And I was like, oh my gosh, I need Scream. So I got the, I got the, this was before the box set came out with all three.

[00:04:44] So I actually have two copies of Scream 3. What about you, Jackie? I owned it. I didn't watch it a lot, but I did own it. I know I had this on VHS. So it was a would buy for me. I just, I haven't checked my actual shelf to see if there's a DVD there. So that would be interesting to see. I'm a guess. I'm a say no.

[00:05:15] We'll see at the end of the episode when I go and check. All right, let's get into box office. So of course, this movie had a big budget. It had a budget of $40 million. It made over $160 million worldwide. And it set a record for the widest opening ever in the United States and Canada being released on over 3,000 screens.

[00:05:41] Scream 3 was released just two years after Scream 2 was greenlit. With a budget of $40 million. And like I said, $40 million. But it was a significant increase in the budgets over Scream, the original, which only had $15 million. And Scream 2, which had $24 million. So what did we learn? The less money a Scream franchise has, the better it's going to be. You do more with less.

[00:06:09] I know in the next few episodes, me and Lil Raj are going to have beef. Why would you say? Like, little Raj, Roger Ebert, this is what he said. The characters are so thin they're transparent. But praise Campbell's appearance saying the camera loves her. She could become a really big star and then giggle at clips from this film at her AFI tribute. Sir.

[00:06:36] I just, I want real critiques of work. That's all I'm going to say. Yeah. Just be pissing me off with his nonsense. I totally forgot that this movie came out after Columbine. And because I remember.

[00:06:59] Like the Matrix came out in 99 and Columbine happened and that was like a big thing and they were really hampering down on violence in movies. It was like a big thing because that's why crazy people kill people because of movies, apparently. So this production definitely had a lot of problems because of that. Not that they shouldn't be mindful of who, what audience is like absorbing this.

[00:07:28] But I do think it's really important that parents are watching what their young, impressionable children are watching and having conversations. Yes, the conversations are very important as well as just basic awareness of like mental health issues in your children and getting them the support that they need. Yeah, 100%. So the shortly before the production began, Columbine happened.

[00:07:58] And then with the production of Scream 3 not underway, there was a lot of consideration about what, whether the film should be made at that time. And they were very aware of the potential negative attention, but the studio decided to go forward with it and were still apprehensive about the violence and the gore.

[00:08:22] So there was a lot of, and I'll get into that in like the script element, but there was a lot of back and forth between the studio and the team about how much gore they were going to have. I think even at one point they were like, they didn't want to show any blood, which is like, this is a slasher. What are we talking about? Yeah. So that was definitely some issues. What else happened?

[00:08:48] At one point in the production, the studio went as far as demanding that the film feature no blood on screen, like I said, which was a drastic departure for the series. But Craven directly intervened. According to Kruger, Craven said, be serious, guys. Either we make a Scream movie or we make a movie and call it something else. But if it's a Scream movie, it's going to have certain standards. Hell yeah. Yeah. Standing on business is what he did.

[00:09:16] It seems so crazy now that stuff like that happens all the time, unfortunately. Yeah. It's just to think about like how outraged and just like shocked the world was by that, that a movie that literally has like no correlation. Like, I mean, I guess you could say the original Scream, you know, took place and with high schoolers. So I guess that's like kind of.

[00:09:45] And yes, there is gun violence in these movies. But obviously the main thing is the knife, the stabbing. And, you know, it's has a new setting. Like it's in Hollywood. Everybody's an adult now. There's like no teens. Like it really didn't correlate. But just the idea of seeing blood, seeing violence. People were so traumatized by this one event. And because it was at the time such a rare event. And I don't know if you guys know about the original.

[00:10:15] I don't know if you were going to say this after, but the original plot for this movie with Matthew Lillard coming back as Stu and all that kind of stuff. So Kevin Williamson was the writer. Like he had a whole thing planned out. It was going to be that Stu was still alive and he was getting letters and stuff sent to the prison from, you know, like how every serial killer has like groupies. Right.

[00:10:44] And despite anything, it's always like, oh, it wasn't your fault. It was the other guy. You didn't really do it. And so Stu basically like commandeered this team of killers to finish the job, I guess, with Sidney. You know, also as with every screen movie, you know, you got to kill a bunch of people. Can't just kill Sidney. You got to kill everybody.

[00:11:08] So and then those killers would be kind of like revealed one by one as like a cult of people that were obsessed with the original crimes. And then at the at the end of the reveal, Stu would would be revealed and Sidney would just be like beyond gagged. You know, like you got out of prison. Like what's happening? And Matthew Lillard was like plane ticket booked, like studio paid him a retainer to wait.

[00:11:35] Like he was literally I think he said it was like he was about to leave in like two or three weeks to go start shooting. And then they canceled the entire thing because I guess that plot line did involve younger people. Mm hmm. High schoolers. So, yeah, they canceled that entire thing. It was supposed to be like much gorier, of course, because it's the third one. You're supposed to amplify everything. Right.

[00:11:58] Instead, it was like you barely see like this movie is almost like a quaint little like horror movie. Exactly. Almost nothing. Yeah. They said following the Columbine school massacre shortly before production began, the script was scrapped and rewritten without his character. And this plot to avoid development of a film which associated violence and murder with the high school setting.

[00:12:24] So that is because it would have made sense because usually they do bring it back to where it started. Right. So I think that's why we got the fourth movie. It was kind of like trying to get back to Woodsboro. But just just crazy. I I'll say this without standing on what do you call that? What do you call that box? They say box. Yes. Without standing too much on my soapbox.

[00:12:53] But like I just find it interesting that this was such a conversation when this happened in 2000. And we have continuously seen school shootings escalate way beyond that to where we're 20 years later and our government cannot come to some sort of resolution to protect our children. But want to protect us from TikTok unanimously. That yeah.

[00:13:23] Crazy. It's not the guns. It's Ghostface. Ghostface is the one convincing all these people to go shoot. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Before we get into the cast and crew, let's hear a message from our pod pals. Sharks of the corn? Virus shark? Cocaine shark? Sharktopus? Yeah. Those are all real movies.

[00:13:50] Join me, Steve Coates, as each week I take a comedic look at the bizarre world of sharksploitation cinema on Bucket of Chum, the shark movie podcast. Hey, Jackie, we're back. So little tidbits about cast and crew. Wes Craven stated that convincing the central cast to return to a film to a new Scream film was not difficult.

[00:14:16] But as with Scream 2, their burgeoning fame and busy schedules made arranging their availability with the film's production period difficult. The consequence of Campbell's commitments in particular meant that she was only available to film her role for 20 days, forcing the script to reduce the series main character to a smaller role while focusing on the other characters played by Cox and Arquette. But I think she was doing Drowning Mona and Party of Five. Yeah. At the same time.

[00:14:45] Which she could have drowned Drowning Mona. She didn't mean to do it. But everybody thinks something's great at the time. But I kind of liked that. Yeah. Like Dewey and Gale had their kind of opportunity to shine. I love it. Right. And because like how many times can we see Sidney crick her neck? Yeah. With the phone and stuff. You know? So.

[00:15:09] Also it's like obviously you have to suspend your disbelief when it comes to movies, especially when it's like the same situation that happens over and over in each movie. Right. Like I think it makes sense that she wouldn't be there. Right. Like if this happened in real life, like the second that anyone got killed from somebody in a ghost face mask, that girl would be in witness protection instantly. Like she would never be showing up. So I like that she's not there.

[00:15:37] And like Dewey and Gale kind of handle it. And then the excuse that they give her. She's like, well, no, I'm not safer there than I am here. And at least here I'm not alone. And I'm like, girl, you definitely should have like police protection at your own house or something. But it was kind of wild because when you see her house and yeah, she's hidden. But bitch, I would not have my window open. I would be. You would have to lock me up. I could. Bars on the window.

[00:16:05] I'm not going just going through it once. Like, first of all, your mom is murdered. Right. So that's already trauma. Then your boyfriend and one of your closest friends boyfriends tries to kill you and all your friends are dead. That's two. You try to fucking go to college. Your roommate's dead. Your boyfriend's dead. Everybody's dead. Randy's dead. Everybody's like, yeah, that's it. I'm done. I ain't doing it.

[00:16:34] And she keeps on coming back. I'm like, girl, that's why I would love a scream if Sydney was actually the killer because it makes sense for her to crack. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised.

[00:16:51] I would kind of love like, like vigilante Sydney and just have her like almost as a fuck you to the government for not doing anything about school violence. Being like, let me go kill some fuckers. Like she becomes Dexter. Yeah. You're just saying Dexter plot, Jackie. I mean, you guys don't know. Jackie loves Dexter. Me too.

[00:17:20] So Patrick Dempsey, when I think about it, that man like did nothing for me in this movie. Like, I don't know why he was there. I know they were trying to make him like a red herring at some point, but like I just didn't understand why he was there. But he apparently was hired the day before shooting began and he had one night to learn like three big dialogue heavy scenes, which. I did write. Oh, it's McDreamy.

[00:17:49] Like as soon as he came on screen, I'm like McDreamy before McDreamy. Cause I didn't, as our listeners know, I didn't grow up in like typical eighties movies. So this is probably. The first Jackie unaware that this was the first Patrick Dempsey movie I've ever, I ever saw. I remember my younger self being very excited to see him because growing up, I was obsessed with can't buy me love.

[00:18:17] So I was excited to see him, but now I'm like, meh. I'm sorry. Wait, the, the line. What's your favorite scary movie? My life. Why in you? Like what? I was like, bitch. Why would you? First of all, even as a joke. Okay, fine. But you're talking to Sydney Prescott. Yeah. Her life. It is. Yeah, it should have been scary movie.

[00:18:46] Your life. Right. It was just like, get out of my face. Also just a tie into Dexter and a nice little bow. Patrick Dempsey plays Captain Aaron Spencer on Original Sin. And Sarah Michelle Gellar's in it too. And she was in Scream 2. Love the tie-ins. Yep. And no, that, that won't count. Oh, well, and I can say this. Christina Milian is in the new show. Yep.

[00:19:16] And she was in Love Don't Cost a Thing, which is a remake of Can't Buy My Love with Patrick Dempsey. And the world is just full circle, baby. You should keep going. I feel like. You're like six degrees of Scream. It's all night, it seems like. I think I did like a video once of the people who were in Scream that were in Shondaland. Like, because Patrick Dempsey was in Grey's Anatomy.

[00:19:45] Then you have Scott Foley in this movie. And he was in Grey's Anatomy and Scandal. Oh, Heather was on an episode of Grey's Anatomy. So, like, I was able to pull a lot. And I was like, I love the crossover here. It's wonderful. So, Lynn McRae. McRee? Hmm. Sure. Finally makes a physical appearance in the series as Maureen Prescott, though only through a hallucination of Sydney.

[00:20:15] Maureen Prescott got so many damn secrets. So you're telling me. I can't be mad at her for not telling her husband, at least, about the baby she gave away because the baby was conceived under such traumatic. Yes. Duress. So it makes sense that maybe she just wanted to block it out. But, yeah. Maureen. I would be so mad at my mama. Like, what?

[00:20:43] What you mean she slept with your daddy and you tried to kill me? What do you mean? You're my brother. Like, go fuck with her grave and leave me alone. Well, negative feedback following the death of Randy had the production consider methods to have his character survive to appear in Scream 3,

[00:21:09] including having the character's family hide him away for safety while recuperating from his injuries. But it was deemed too unbelievable. And the idea was replaced with the character appearing in a minor role via a pre-recorded video message. Now, I remember when I saw this movie, I was super happy to see Randy. But now, years later, I'm just like, this is weird.

[00:21:36] That, like, because he's saying, okay, I didn't survive too, but I foresee not only that I might not have survived, but this shit is happening again. Yeah. And here are the rules. It was fun. It was fun, but also, it's, I definitely had to, like, disbelief here, you know? Yes, definitely. I love it. For me, it works because I feel like Jamie Kennedy's performance is really good.

[00:22:04] And I feel like he sells it. Like, I can, the urgency in his voice and how, just even, like, the detail of his roommate banging on the door and being like, you know, because they're in college. He's like, come on, I need to get in. And he's like, just give me five minutes. It's like, because he has seen so many of these movies. Right. He knows them inside and out, so he knows he's probably not going to make it to the next one. And so, the urgency, and he's like, okay, listen, I have to tell you guys, if this happens again, here's all the rules that you need to follow.

[00:22:32] And I just feel like, it definitely would have been missing something without his commentary. So, I like it. The thing that I think where I really have to be like, I'm like, how did this happen? Is like, she, his sister is just like there. Yeah. She's like, I have something to show you. Did she know that they were coming? And she just like, her performance is so flat as well. Like, it gives nothing. She's like, I found this tape.

[00:23:01] Here you go. So, it's like, okay, what happened? She was just sitting on this for the longest time. Like, I would be like, showing that to them way before. Yeah. Like, Randy's from the grave telling us if this shit happens again, here are the rules. Right. I want to do this one because I want to do this one. Scream 3 featured several cameo appearances, including the fictional characters Jay and Silent Bob.

[00:23:29] I love that for me. I love that for them. So, were they making this movie? Because I think we talked about it when we talked about Jay and Silent Bob when we did that movie. Mm-hmm. Were they making Jay and Silent Bob when this was, or was it just the Mayor Max connection? So, this came out 2000. I'm trying to think of what movie. It might have been Dogma. Dogma?

[00:23:59] Well, they were, yeah. Because Jay and Silent Bob came out in 2001, right? And Dogma was, yeah. So, 99, yeah. So, it was either Dogma, because that came out in 99, or Jay and Silent Bob, Strike Back. Yeah. So, that was 2001. Kelly Rutherford, aka Lily. Kiki.

[00:24:21] Was cast after filming had begun as the production was undergoing constant rewrites, and the opening scene evolved from requiring only a female corpse to needing a live actress with whom Schreiber could interact with. So, love that for her. Yeah. What else do we have? Wes Craven was briefly considered for the role of John Milton. That would have been fun. Yeah. Definitely.

[00:24:50] Because did he make a cameo in the second one? Because I know he did in the first one, but I don't remember seeing him in the second one. I don't think he's in the second one, no. Yeah. But, yeah, I don't know how I would feel about him playing the Harvey Weinstein. Of it all, yeah. Yeah. Because he's so, like, I mean, obviously, I don't know the man, but he seemed so, like, sweet and gentle for what his career ended up being, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

[00:25:19] Well, I know we all love Carrie Fisher being in the movie, so her cameo as former actress Bianca Burnett was at the suggestion of Bob Weinstein, and she helped write her own character. Which is also really funny, because Jamie Lee Curtis was offered the role of Bianca, but turned it down. And I just wish that would have crossed over, because she was working with Kevin Williamson.

[00:25:45] They've had other cameos from, like, other screen queens, like Linda Blair in the first movie, so it would have been really cool. I don't know why she turned it down. Maybe she was really busy. I don't know. Yeah. This was Scott Foley's feature film debut. Yeah, I think because we're just so used to seeing him on TV, I didn't realize this was his first movie. He didn't do the best acting job, per se, but hey, we all got to start somewhere.

[00:26:16] Someone is trying to kill my movie. And we talked about this during our Desert Blue episode, that Kate Hudson was cast but replaced prior to the movie starting. And it's listed on the VHS box of Desert Blue. I think we figured out that, like, her mom didn't want her to do it or something. Yeah. Do you remember what it was? Yeah. I feel like it was something like that, yeah.

[00:26:44] Because she was pretty, she was still pretty young. And maybe now that we think about it, maybe her mom knew about the Weinsteins and wanted to keep her because she was, I think she was right after high school maybe when she did Desert Blue. So, and so they were saying that the role would have been for Christine or Sarah. She seems a little young for Christine. Like, I don't know if they would have put. Yeah, because she was pretty young.

[00:27:14] She was like 20, right? So. David Boreanaz was considered for the role of Mark Kincaid. And after Valentine, I don't want to see him in no other horror films. Like, have all the seats. Play Angel all day. But that's it. Like, that's as horror as I can get. Valentine is crazy. So bad. So bad. That's so bad. That's another one that they were like, okay, let's get some of the scream money.

[00:27:44] Yes. Yeah. That was. Let's put some pretty people in a movie and see what happens. I think all the studios should have said, you know what? I think we should stop with these after Valentine because this is, this is the lowest of lows. And Stone Cold Steve Austin was considered for the role of Stephen Stone. I can't see that. No. It would make sense, though, if the role was written for him.

[00:28:14] The naming of these characters. Like, we literally have Angelina and Jolie. Jennifer Jolie. Yeah. Jennifer Jolie. And it's always funny because. But someone else's name is Angelina. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's. I'm like, we weren't really using the old noggin. Like, we're not stretching for these names. He had Us Weekly and he was just like, that sounds about right.

[00:28:43] But I always find it really funny that in this movie, Courtney Cox says to the character Jennifer Jolie, which is a combination of, you know, having Jennifer Aniston's name and Angelina Jolie and then bringing up Brad Pitt. It ages very interestingly. Yes. This is also Emily Mortimer's first, like her US movie debut.

[00:29:08] And they didn't find out till after they hired her that she did not have the necessary work permits to allow her involvement in the film. So she had to fly to Vancouver to get one. And so at least they kept her and didn't fire her for that. Yeah. Although is. Did I make this up in my head that she was one of the killers as well? Or was that like a. I made it up in my head.

[00:29:37] No, she was that that was in one of the drafts of the script. And I believe they also filmed some stuff that was related to that. But that's why this because I mean, obviously, like all of the movies would be very hard to pull off for the killers. Right. You would have to be like superhuman strength, like super fast, like all these kinds of things. Right.

[00:30:01] But in general, they do a pretty good job of like, OK, I could see how like when Billy was here, Stu was here and like that kind of stuff. Like you can actually look back and figure it out. And it's not a mess. This one like doesn't make physical sense. So there would have to be a second person there. And I guess they especially for the the scene, which I think is like the best scene in this movie is is when Sydney's in her house, this house set like it would be impossible what Ghostface does.

[00:30:31] And I think that they once they decided that they did not want Angelina to be the second killer, they could not they couldn't go back and reshoot it because they didn't have Nev. So I think they just kind of had to leave it how it was. But I I don't know, even though I don't really like you mentioned before in Scream 6, the those killers like I didn't feel like that was a slam dunk.

[00:30:57] But I do think it makes more sense to have three than having one because yeah, one person pulling all this off would be. I mean, the way that it's the way that this specific movie is shot, it would literally be impossible. But if you're even just thinking of like any scenario, it's like one person doing all this is not going to work. I think what would be kind of cool to play to that is in another Scream movie, say, actually, there were two killers in this movie and one got away. Yeah.

[00:31:27] And becomes one of the main killers in this next one, because no one would have seen that coming and didn't realize, you know, that there were two. That would be kind of cool. It was Sydney all along. Right. Or like, you know, we really could be pushing things like we haven't had a twin yet. This is true. Oh, no. Maureen with her damn secrets. Yeah.

[00:31:57] Sydney was a twin. There were two Romans. Or yeah, there were two. Oh, my God. She had twins, y'all. I just want it to be fraternal. So Scott Foley, bless his heart. He can't come back. He's not invited back. It's a wrap. That would be so like Maureen to have another secret. Right. Right.

[00:32:21] Twins separated at birth and then they came back together when they were looking for their mother and then they realized she was more abandoned. Yeah. Yeah. Or I saw the news one day. I was watching the news and I realized my face was on the news. And then I realized that it was my brother. And I had to avenge his death after my wicked ass sister killed our own brother from that bitch and whore Maureen for leaving us.

[00:32:50] Like, yeah, I could see it. Yeah. There were lesser reasons in the past. What if there was another sibling that just like that found them? But was like, looking at the news and was like, I'm just gonna stay back. I'm gonna stay away from this person. I'm not gonna tell her. I'm not gonna reveal myself. Yeah. No, I'm better off.

[00:33:14] But what I do love is that because now, like, I think one of the movies should be based on the fact that there's like, you know how in Only Murders, they have podcasts about like these true crime things. Like, it would be cool to have a bunch of podcasters that they they're like, obsessed because we've seen people be obsessed with the movies. But like a true crime podcast group, like wanting to recreate everything.

[00:33:44] Yeah. It's interesting that we now have like, not just the killings, but these this franchise, the stab movies, the movie within the movie that has become like its own lore, because that is the catalyst in I think the fifth movie behind one of the crazies. And then even in the six movies, they get into that because like, it, I just love how they play with that. Yeah. And I wouldn't be mad if they made a movie called stab and just like made a whole nother series.

[00:34:15] That would be fun. I love the Heather Graham version of Barrymore and scream too. Yeah. I know I don't know you, but I dislike you already. Well, let's jump into the movie. And I feel like at this point, we could probably jump around if we want to. And just talk about the highlights. But in true scream fashion, we get murder right off the bat.

[00:34:44] And poor Cotton Weary has survived this long, but he will survive no longer. Yeah. And they take out his girlfriend too. She didn't do anything. She just happens to be dating him. No. And Cotton just wanted to get laid. Yeah. Yeah. This was really not the way his life was supposed to turn out, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I, one of the best fun facts in this whole list, because there's so many for this movie,

[00:35:13] has to be, Lee Schreiber insisted that Cotton Weary should remove his jacket in the opening sequence because he had been working out a lot and wanted to show off his physique. We love Hollywood. Just please let me take this jacket off. Just please. I didn't like this opening because I'm not really attached to Cotton, but all the other openings were people we didn't know, right?

[00:35:42] Like, it's a character that is kind of adjacent to the main characters, but not one of the, like, kind of main characters or the poor group. It felt... And I feel like Cotton should have been killed last, the last movie, and Randy should have lived. Just saying. Definitely. It felt, for some reason, it felt lower stakes than if it was just a couple going to the movies or a girl watching movies at home with her boyfriend.

[00:36:11] Like, it felt so low stakes, and it's just like, oh, it's this random girl that Cotton's banging because he hasn't learned from his ways. He just is still... Out in these streets. Yeah. It just, yeah. And you feel for him a little bit in the second movie, but it's still not this, like, heroic redemption where you're really rooting for Cotton at any point.

[00:36:38] How did you guys feel about Ghostface using that recorder thing to change, the voice changer thingy? And, like, because we've never seen it in the end of other movies. So this, obviously, now seems so ahead of its time. Yeah. But this is one of the major criticisms that people have of this movie.

[00:37:03] Like, even people that adore the franchise, they're like, ugh, but the third one, you know, because this voice changer is literally a perfect, perfect recreation of all these people's voices. Yeah. And it's like, how did he get them? I understand Cotton, right? Because Cotton, and this is one of my favorite details of the movie, his talk show is 100% Cotton. I love it. So good.

[00:37:33] And he's on TV, right? So, like, now what we know about AI voice, it's like if you have 100 episodes of a TV show, you can pull those voices and it will be, like, really good. Because you've had all those sounds being said all those times, right? But how did they do – I mean, I guess Sydney did agree to that Dateline interview, so maybe they got her voice from that. Gail is on TV as well.

[00:37:57] I don't know how they got Dewey's voice, but I mean, in 2000, it seems like, oh, that's so crazy. Nobody could ever do that. But I think it's funny because now somebody could do this. Like, people are literally getting scam calls from their, you know, family saying, please help me. I've been kidnapped. And it really is, like, their family's voice. Mm-hmm.

[00:38:23] And, you know, people are pulling from their social medias and, like, downloading all their TikToks and making the fake voice and stuff like that. So now I'm like, actually, this is so cool and, like, a really good – like, I could see a killer doing this today. At the time, it would have not been possible, though. So I understand that criticism. Yeah.

[00:38:47] I hated it just from, like – I could suspend belief if it was, like, sentences they had said. But to, like, make it so that they say whatever is appropriate. And then it's just, like, this little box. There's no, like, screen or anything that you could, like, type in what you wanted to say. I'm like, how are you programming that to get it to say what you want?

[00:39:15] I mean, it does make sense that someone like Roman could figure something out like this. Because if it's not, like, just a technology thing and it's more like this is a movie magic Hollywood thing. So that I could be, like, okay. But you're right. That box thing, I was like, even the talk boy had buttons. Like, come on now. I'm like, that looks like the voice changer that has been used in the two previous movies.

[00:39:43] Like, there's no sophistication to that contraption. I do want to state that, like we said, Kevin Williamson could not come back for this one. The man was busy. He was writing for Dawson's Creek, The Faculty, Halloween H20. And he was doing his debut, directorial debut with Teaching Mrs. Tingle. So that's where Aaron Kruger came in.

[00:40:10] Because the studio could not wait for Kevin Williamson, which I know they learned from that fucking mistake. And apparently he, like, left an outline for Kruger and he ignored the outline. And his script was written mostly on the fly with pages usually completed the day that they were to be filmed, which is why we get in the movie, the actors in the movie, within the movie, complaining that they were constantly getting new rewrites.

[00:40:38] Because this was happening in real life. And I tried to look at whatever, what else Kruger had done to see if, like, he ever beat the charges. I don't know. Let's see. I'll look that up while you guys continue. So after Cotton Weary's demise, we see Sydney. She lives somewhere along the Monterey Coast in California.

[00:41:07] Very isolated, like, in the woods by herself. She has a dog that does not seem like a guard dog. It just seems like a happy-go-lucky golden retriever. I'm like, where's your German shepherd that knows only German commands? Like, where is, like, your protector? Like, got a golden retriever. She needs some healing. That's all.

[00:41:35] I think it's funny that she has a gate code and you can just, like, jump. Yes. Right? Like, why? Yes, I thought that too. I was like, why is this so fucking short? Sure. There's no barbed wire. There's nothing. It doesn't seem electrified. Like, what are we doing, Sydney? And her daddy comes, her dad is the same actor who played her dad in the other movies, when the first movie is in this one again.

[00:42:03] And he's like, I just want you to come back home. Why would you say that? I would be out here with my child. I would never leave her side again until she, like, maybe got married or something. Like, what are you talking about? She's full of trauma. Right. I don't want to go back to trauma home. I don't know why he- It's bad enough she was on set. Yes. And why was he, why would he want to go back? Yeah. I would, like, that closet he was stuck in. I don't know if he was like, sell the house. Sell it. Well, that was Stu's house.

[00:42:32] That wasn't his house. Oh, right, right, right. You're right. But still- Okay, so I found it what Kruger wrote. So he wrote all three Ring movies. The Skeleton Key, The Brothers Grimm, Transformers Revenge of the Fallen, Transformer Dark of the Moon, and Age of Extinction, Ghost in the Shell. Trash. And Top Gun Maverick, which I actually liked. So- He wrote Top Gun Maverick? Yep.

[00:43:02] Maybe he just had to get out of, like, horror and, like, robots. He had to go through 80 other movies. Okay, so he's, like, he's rich, rich now. Yeah, he just had to go through all these other shitty movies, and then he finally got in with Top Gun Maverick. He also did that Dumbo movie that nobody saw. Yeah. Do we think Aaron Kruger is a stage name? Probably.

[00:43:31] I mean, there are lines in Scream 3 about stage names, so- Yeah. Could be. Could be. I actually do. I think it's a good, I think it's a good move for the character of Sydney that her job is a crisis counselor for women. I think that, that's a really good detail of this movie. And there's actually, like, a lot of interesting character details that they add in this movie.

[00:44:00] And so I really like, I really like that. I like that better than Scream 4 when she's just kind of like, I wrote a book. Yeah. Right. So yeah, I like that. And I think that it's actually like the little bit that we hear of her like on a call, like I actually find it to be like moving. I'm like, wow. Like, you know, like this is serious. She's turned her pain into helping others. Exactly. Which is highly cool. Yeah. Like I, like we already said, I really did enjoy the fact that we don't see Sydney right away.

[00:44:27] Like, well, you know, she's not with the group right away. And we start to see, I think we meet, we see Gail first because after Cotton is killed. And so she goes to find Dewey, who is now a technical advisor on Stab 3. Oh, sorry. She's also a character. Easily manipulated by Jennifer Jolie, played by Parker Posey, who is playing Gail Weathers in Stab 3.

[00:44:58] Effortlessly. By the way. She is everything. She is everything in this movie. Like literally, I think this character is one of the best things they ever did. Yeah. I mean, it's just Parker Posey, honestly, but it's still so fun the way she plays it. And I would watch a buddy cop movie with those two any day. Oh my God. Yeah, because, okay, you can, we can like talk shit on Aaron Kruger all day. But like, listen, when you're coming after Kevin Williamson, and this was all his idea, these are his characters, his story.

[00:45:27] Like, of course, you're not going to be like up to snuff, first of all. Right. But there's some, and there's some like terrible dialogue in this movie, but I think the dialogue between Jennifer Jolie and Gail and Dewey is so good. Yeah. Yeah. I think the actors had, you could tell they were having fun to bring that to life. Yeah. And when else do you see that in a movie? Like, here's the real person, and here's the actress playing them.

[00:45:56] That's just like such an interesting dynamic. And then Dewey, like, they never officially say what's going on. Like, if something's going on with him and Jennifer, but she clearly is like into him. And who knows, like, maybe they hooked up or something. And it's like, well, it didn't work out with the real Gail. So she's the closest thing that I have. Let's go with imposter Gail. But I would have loved to see each of the characters, the actors portraying their characters together more.

[00:46:24] Because we get that wonderful dynamic between Gail and Jennifer. But, like, Dewey and his counterpart, or even, like, Sydney and her counterpart don't even really interact. Like, Emily Mortimer should, like, there was no point for her to be in this movie. It was a waste of her talents, I feel. But the other thing that I had a realization re-watching in this is that Dewey is not a supportive partner.

[00:46:51] And also trying to constantly dim Gail's light. Like, Gail is a go-getter. She's ambitious. This is who she is. You've known this this whole time. And he's constantly trying to make her something that she's not. Like, why would she live in Woodsboro? Why would she go back to Woodsboro? And if you're able to go to Hollywood and do this job, that means you could have been in Hollywood with Gail. Yeah.

[00:47:20] And that annoys me. Yeah. Why do you want to go back to Woodsboro, Dewey? Because that's as far as he can get, I guess, in his limited view. But, like, why hold Gail back? You want to – it's like he wanted to tame her or something. She's not the nicest. I get that. But that's who she is, man. Yeah. She gets the story. She's cutthroat. She does what she has to do. And she has no apologies about it.

[00:47:50] I hate that he, like, tries to make it seem like she should be – She's doing something wrong. Right. Yeah. And I don't think I ever thought about that when I was watching the first few movies. Gail deserves better. I think they're just – they have that type of tragic dynamic where they're just too different, but they're still in love with each other. Yeah.

[00:48:14] It's like when you reach that impasse in a relationship where you're like, this isn't going to work, but I don't like being without you. So let's just – let's just do it. And I was wondering when I was watching where David Arquette and Courtney Cox were in their journey when this movie came out. So they met on the set of Scream 1. They dated while doing Scream 2. And they married a month before this movie came out.

[00:48:42] So they – apparently they cut their honeymoon short in order to be able to come film it. And Cox added Arquette to her name. So you see that in the credits, which is super sweet. But we can also blame David Arquette for those fucking bangs in this movie. I saw conflicting reports, though. Yes. I saw two different things. Because one, they said it was like clip-on bangs. Like she's wearing a wig. Like it's not her hair.

[00:49:10] But in an Entertainment Tonight video interview, David Arquette admitted that he was the one who had suggested to his then-wife Courtney Cox that she cut her hair like Betty Page, thus giving rise to the infamous Scream 3 bangs. Fans hated the new look and divided it for years. It's the scariest part of the movie. Who looked at that and was like, get her a wig if she cut bad bangs?

[00:49:40] Like do something. But it's not – it wasn't her hair. It was on a wig. I think like the bangs were like clip-on things. And there was only one set of the bangs. Okay, first off, we have a $40 million budget and we can't get a second set of clip-in bangs? I mean – Second off, then just don't use the bangs if they're that bad.

[00:50:04] Like I don't understand where anyone looked at that and was like, yeah, looks great. No notes. Neve Campbell said that she worked so – she tried so hard to tell Courtney Cox like, yeah, looks good. She did not sell that well enough. But she – Neve Campbell was wearing a wig as well. But I didn't see – that wig looked great. I didn't even know it was a wig. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:50:32] That just looked like early aughts hair. Yeah. Apparently because of Drowning Mona, her character had like a long streaked hair. So she had to wear a wig to play Sydney. So way better. Maybe all the money went to her wig. Did you guys notice that Sydney is wearing the same outfit in Scream 3 that she wears in Scream 2? You know – yes. You know why?

[00:51:00] Because when I tried – I was trying to pick pictures to pull, I was like – I said Scream 3. I was getting mad at the computer. Yeah. She wears the same outfit and she wears her letters that Derek gave to her. I did notice that. But – Okay. I always wondered – like obviously I get her wearing the letters but I always wondered like why is she wearing the exact same outfit?

[00:51:27] And I don't think I ever found out why. But I think – I guess like people just theorize like that's like her uniform now. Her ass-kicking uniform. But it's like that – those clothes that she wore in Scream 2 must have been just, you know, ruined with all the blood and stuff. So that means she went out and purchased replacement green shirt and brown jacket. So I don't know.

[00:51:55] But I always thought that was weird that she has the same wardrobe. I think the costume department was like, don't worry, we got this. Pull the looks from last year – last movie. Well, speaking of Gail's look, like I love that in each movie she has such a distinctive look. Like I actually wish they would have done – like for the last couple ones, they didn't change her look at all. I love for the first three. She looks completely different in each one. Yeah.

[00:52:23] Which I think really is, you know, for somebody like her that's always on camera and like she's reinventing herself. She's like the Madonna of trash TV. Yeah. And her wardrobe in this, like it's – so like I mean her wardrobe really in all three of them. Like I just love how – like what a distinct character she is. Yeah. And she wears like really funky colors sometimes and it just pops for her. It looks really good.

[00:52:50] Like it's – she's loud and brash and her outfits like mimic who she is personality wise. Yeah. Yeah. And I think Sydney's outfits match her – like Sydney has always like been real chill. She's never been girly girl. So like when Tatum was there, you kind of got to see the difference between the two. She's always been like a jeans and t-shirt kind of girl.

[00:53:17] So it would be kind of weird to see her in something different. But it would be nice because those – Neve Campbell is such a beautiful woman and it would be nice to see some different non-muted colors on her. I'll say that. She did wear a lovely pair of scrubs as pants. I was like what are those pants? At the beginning – Scrubs are so comfortable to wear in the house. I get it.

[00:53:46] But girl, she's at her house. She's relaxing. I guess it was before athleisure. It was before we got leggings all day. Yeah.

[00:54:01] So we see Dewey and – well, first we – Gail meets Kincaid and has offered to help them with their investigation because at all the scenes we're seeing pictures of Maureen from like her youth. Yes. Yes. Being left behind. Which, by the way, those pictures are from the actual actresses like from her own collection, I guess, of her – what do you call those headshots?

[00:54:31] Yeah. So I thought that was kind of cool. And then we get to the actual set and we – that's when we get the Jennifer Jolie meeting – I want to say Courtney Cox, but Gail. And then we meet her and Dewey are reunited. But it is really cool because now we get to see all the different on-set characters we meet. We meet Scott Foley's character who is Roman, a very – Who's the director of Staff 3. It's giving Quentin Tarantino.

[00:55:01] I don't know why, but that's the vibe I'm getting. And things are kind of a mess on set because the – there's backlash from everybody because the killings have started again essentially. And they thought the killings were going in order of the script. Right. But then there were multiple different versions of the script which also mirrors Scream 3 because they didn't want anything leaked to the press ahead of release.

[00:55:31] And then there's also like putting the pieces together that somehow Maureen is connected because the photo is like from the back lot that they're actually on. Like it's a lot of – there's a lot of moving pieces in this part of the movie. And then a lot of them end up at a house together. We also have the bodyguard played by Kronk.

[00:56:01] They ended up – which house together? You mean Jennifer's house? Yes. Yeah. Yes. Because they think the movie is going to be over so they're like ripping up the script. They're like fuck it. We hate it. Because I think the first character from that group that gets killed is Jenny McCarthy's character. Mm-hmm. Right? After Cotton. Yes. After Cotton it's her. And then – Her character has like the worst name ever.

[00:56:31] What is it? Sarah Darling. Yeah. I hate it. And then like there's like a whole conversation about her being 35 playing a 20-something years old. But like I think Jenny was actually like in her 20s. So it was super weird. 27 I think. Yeah. I always get confused because she's in the scary movie franchise as well.

[00:56:56] So I'm like I can't remember what role she played in which movie sometimes I forget. Yeah. So there's – yeah. A lot happens right off the bat. Like there's so many new characters introduced. But for me like the scene where Gail walks into the Woodsboro town and right away Jennifer runs over to her and is like so starstruck.

[00:57:26] You know she's like gushing and Gail is like has a problem with her which is so funny because I kind of get it because it's Gail. But it's like why do you have such animosity toward this person who's playing you? Like she didn't do anything. Like she's just – you know what I mean? Like if anything why don't you try to befriend her so she does it exactly how you would want or whatever. But Gail is just like so over her from the beginning. Like she's like get away from me. And I love the – she's like I've been doing this so long. Like I feel like I'm in your mind.

[00:57:55] And Gail goes that would explain my constant headaches. Like I love their banter. And then it's so good because you see like Jennifer immediately pick up on like oh okay. Like we're not playing nice. And like you know if you're going to be that bitchy Gail Weathers well I'm going to be bitchy Gail Weathers right back to you. And then she starts with like the insults and stuff. And then Dewey comes over. Gail is like shocked to see him.

[00:58:22] You know that something happened between them because in Scream 2 they have such a romantic storyline. And then all of a sudden in this movie they hate each other. So you're like wait what happened? So then that's like interesting. And then you see Jennifer go over to him and she's like you know I've really been able to get to know you a lot better with Dewey here. And you know how you have that lost little girl inside. And imagine that dynamic of like you're still in love with this guy that you have this like crazy history with.

[00:58:51] Someone who's playing you is like implying like I've really been getting in your shoes Gail. And now and like Gail knowing like oh wait. So you guys are like maybe hooking up first of all. Second of all even worse you're like picking his brain about personal details about me. And did he tell you that I'm like just a lost little girl at the end of the day? Like Gail's brain is exploding.

[00:59:19] And it's just like and on top of it you have the bangs. You have the bright green. Like Jennifer's wearing the bright green outfit from the first movie. Like all the references to the first movie are so good. And then Gail's wearing like you know the new millennium version. She's wearing like the bright yellow. And she has like a purse that has like holes in it so that she could put her camera in there. And Dewey clocks it. Like they're just so good together.

[00:59:44] Like as much as I wish Kevin just wrote the whole franchise all of them. I think that the dialogue is really good. Yeah. And I think the actors definitely lift the script up quite a bit. And you could tell that the writer had a lot of fun writing those characters. Because they are they have the best lines I think out of everybody.

[01:00:12] And so while all this is happening we one thing I do want to say is that one of the biggest critiques about Scream 1 was the lack of diversity. And I think when we did the first movie and the second movie I was like the first movie not having as much diversity. I wasn't shocked because it seemed like a very like white suburban neighborhood. So okay.

[01:00:40] Then what ended up happening is in the second movie they were like we didn't have enough. We didn't have blacks. So let's put everybody black in this second movie. And so we had a we killed three and kept one alive. Okay. Now we're back to square zero. We're at we're in Hollywood now where it would make more sense to actually have a little bit more diversity. And you have one black character and the way he dies. Yeah.

[01:01:10] It was poor thing. Yeah. Bud from the Cosby show is like not Bud. I hate that like that. So I just that always cracks me up because if you look on Twitter and read some of the tweets about like what happens. No black people. Lots of black people. One token. And that's it. And then knowing that that actor plays in not another teen movie as the token black guy. Right.

[01:01:40] Yeah. They did a much better job with in the second movie. I mean not that they were like fully fleshed out. But they did a much better job I think with Joel the cameraman and the and the roommate. Like I feel yeah. Yeah. Like they at least had like personality traits. And I don't know why like people scream fans keep saying like you need to bring back Joel. Like where is he? He's alive. Yeah. Yeah. You know why? Because he.

[01:02:10] It's always difficult to watch some of these movies where they do have some diversity but they do not act like a black person would act at all. You know like Elise Neal. She was a. I forgot what her character's name was but Cindy's roommate slash best friend. She would not have done some of the stupid ass shit she did in that movie. Like. Like. At the beginning where he's like listening to the stall next to him. Yeah. Would not happen. Not at all. He would have.

[01:02:40] He would have busted and been like who the fuck is over there? Or he would have just minded like why? Or just finished and left. Yeah. None of that shit was happening. Some weird shit's going on in the bathroom. Right. So the only black character that that stuck to what we would do which would be like I'm gonna fuck out of here. That's why everyone wants Joel back because yeah that makes sense. Yeah. It's like why does nobody leave? Yeah. I'd be like I have to go.

[01:03:11] Like I'm taking a plane far far away from here. Right. And I'll never see you guys again. He comes back at the end of the movie and he's like Gaila you know it could be me and you like the old days. And I'm like that was like yesterday. That was last night. He was like you know what happened? He went home. He's like shit I need this job. I need that shit. So he's like I'm gonna come back. That's all that was.

[01:03:40] But yeah they they did talk about bringing him back for this movie. I don't know why they didn't but they they had one idea during development was to have Tori Spelling returning as herself portraying Sydney in stab three. And at one point the character of Joel played by Dwayne Martin was also set to return. Where are you going? He would have been fun.

[01:04:04] I think he would have had a lot of one-liners and it would have been fun to see his dynamic with Gail again. So. Just delete Angelina and then just give all of her screen time to him. Angelina would oh yeah. It would be funny if the character who played Sydney or the actress that played Sydney just like left. Yeah. Going back to England bye. Yeah I get that.

[01:04:35] And also like you don't have anything with her like that also would be a really interesting dynamic. It's like you're playing Sydney like that must they have like a minute together you know like that actually that would have been an interesting thing too. But you know what if we had to sacrifice it to have Jennifer Jolie be such a main character then fine. She's everything. So we're at Jennifer's house now. Yeah.

[01:05:05] So Patrick Walburton plays Stone the bodyguard. He's her bodyguard yeah. And he gets stabbed. And then. In Dewey's trailer by the way like why is Dewey staying at this woman's house and he has his own trailer on her property. Gail calls him out on it too. She's like what the fuck is going on? Gail has walked into like the Twilight Zone.

[01:05:32] We're like this is me but this isn't me but my ex-boyfriend is living here and I'm like she's like it is bizarre. And so everyone's kind of hanging out. With her? Yeah. And everyone's kind of hanging out and like worried and like I'm next no I'm next based on what script pages they have. And then they get.

[01:06:00] Then Stone dies and so they're like the killer is fucking here. And so they're like running around trying to figure things out and then someone stays inside. Is it the guy that plays Tom? He plays Dewey. Yes.

[01:06:18] When they start getting the thing the messages through fax I guess from Ghostface which was also like a very new departure from just the phone calls which I would have appreciated more. And they're all like reading it instead of and then they're trying to decide if they should go outside or inside or whatever. And he stays inside and the house blows up that I didn't like that because that's never been a scream kind of thing.

[01:06:48] Like we this I think that's the first time we've seen a death that wasn't like some sort of either gun pushing stab you know or gun. But like I don't know it felt so outside of what it was supposed to be. There was a potential to take out everyone. Yeah. And that's not what scream is. It's very methodical and like. Taunting. Yeah.

[01:07:16] And they're like killed in a specific reason or in a specific order for a reason. Right. And that had the potential just to like. Kill everyone which was. Bizarre. But also like it was kind of Scooby Doo how they're like reading the faxes and like trying to decide. And then like the last one is like who like they flip over the picture Maureen. And it's like whoever smells gas. I'm like.

[01:07:49] Yeah. The whoever smells the gas part was was dumb. But I actually like the. I like the idea of the script pages coming in because they're not sure like you said before what script it is. So they don't know who's dying next. But I think he actually maybe did mean to take all of them out because Sidney is not there. So it's okay. In his perspective he's not. This isn't a movie. He's you know like he's a real person doing this right.

[01:08:16] So it's like maybe he wanted to take all them out especially Dewey and Gale because then he could isolate Sidney. And get her to come out of hiding. Right. But I also really like the scene before this which I think is like one of the funniest like one of the best scenes where Jennifer is so stressed because she thinks that she's the one that's next.

[01:08:39] And she's like smoking and she's like she's like do you see this Dewey I haven't had one of these in a year someone has to pay for this. And she's like so like dramatic and she just like and Gale's like wait what's happening like who like who gets killed third and and Parker Posey's like you too. She's so funny and then she just like jumps into the bodyguards arms and like there's no dialogue and then it just like cuts.

[01:09:08] It's so I'm like why is this the best comedy of the year 2000 like it's so funny and so I feel like all that like builds up to them getting the pages and then like they're kind of fighting because they're trying to figure out they're like oh no like the killer wants us inside so we should go outside and go outside.

[01:09:29] Then they're like no no no what if he wants us what if we're supposed to be inside or we're supposed to be outside or whatever like all that kind of stuff so I like all of that build up but then also it's like where's the killer like can where's the killer like he can't see what's happening right. Like he's not in the house is he like he had to be nearby watching he had to be well I mean he had to be because he had stabbed what's his face yeah on the property so he's around. Like how is he faxing from where is he faxing from the trailer.

[01:09:59] I think you can program faxes to be sent. Maybe I know you can email them I don't know if it was at that level yet but girl it's a mess. All this super technology that Roman had access to in the year 2000 wasn't making any sense. And so then they're all outside they have survived and then Angelina just comes out of the bushes and it's just like yeah you're real sus girl you're real sus.

[01:10:26] And then they go I think at this point they're back at the station with Kincaid because this is when Kincaid is kind of giving them like he's obsessed with having Sydney come in. He's been trying to contact her and finally Sydney just comes in because she's having she's at home having nightmares seeing her mama in her pajamas outside is very very weird very weird. Oh. Oh.

[01:10:56] It's me. I'm Mario mommy. It's Sydney. So she comes back with Dewey and Gail and I do like seeing her and Gail like not know if they should hug each other. At least they don't punch each other. Gail punches Jennifer in this movie and so they're on cool terms. My lawyer loved that. Right. So dramatic all the time.

[01:11:25] All the time. And they start piecing together. Dewey notices that like the picture of Maureen is on the same studio grounds as Stab 3 so they're kind of looking into it. This is where around the time we get that scene with Carrie Fisher playing kind of like the records keeper for the studio and she knows everyone's real name.

[01:11:51] And she slept with you because Carrie Fisher slept with George Lucas to get the role. Yeah. It's like is that you Carrie? Because she's like oh no I just look they would just look alike or whatever. So I think that was kind of funny. Well because Carrie wrote it. Yeah. Of course. So was Carrie a ghost writer on this? I think she just said that she wrote her part. So I don't know if she helped. I don't think she touched the whole thing.

[01:12:18] I'd like to believe she wrote the character of Jennifer Jolie. Well I mean what we know of her being a script doctor is that usually she comes in to write for the female characters in movies. So like we know that the Drew Barrymore character from The Wedding Singer that was all her. She couldn't save those damn Star Wars the one two and three four thing. Yeah.

[01:12:49] I don't even have words. She couldn't save it. They figure out that Maureen had a secret life in Hollywood and was kind of attached to this director who come to find out preyed on young women trying to make it big in Hollywood. And the same guy who is a part of this movie or ahead of the is he ahead of the studio now I guess. I don't know what his role is but.

[01:13:18] Well and then we get in a line from Angelina as she's like running away and she's like I didn't sleep with him. To die here with you second rate celebrities. Yeah. The only thing that she says that makes sense in this movie. I could have used my brain for science but instead I just used it to memorize this whole movie.

[01:13:41] I love the scenes that we're talking about here because I love Jennifer and Gail working together to solve the murder. Like I love how you know Gail's trying to get into where all the files are and it's Jennifer that has the key card. And you know Gail is like okay I'm gonna bribe this woman and Jennifer's like a 50. Like what are you a reporter for Woodsboro High? Like she gives Carrie Fisher like her ring or something.

[01:14:10] And I think my other favorite scene in the movie is when Gail's like what are you doing here? And she Jennifer has this monologue about how she's like the killer doesn't want to kill me. He wants to kill you. So from now on I'm gonna be everywhere that you are because then if the killer comes he's gonna kill you. He's not gonna kill me. Does that make sense? And Gail's like no. And it actually does make sense.

[01:14:36] But then it's like after he kills Gail he's coming for you boo boo. This is not a solid play. I see holes in this plot. Yeah but I think it makes sense for her character though because of course she would be like well I'm gonna live. You know I'm immune to all of this. They just you know they want Sidney, Gail and Dewey not me. And yeah just her whole like their whole back and forth during all those scenes is so good.

[01:15:03] So now that we know who the studio head is we know that he's a predator and then he admits that Maureen is raped by multiple men at a party. And he what he doesn't say that he too was one of these people because isn't it implied that that's Roman's father? I would think so yeah. Yeah. And so gross.

[01:15:30] But I just want to know how fucked up Harvey Weinstein is and was to see something like this play out in this movie that he's heavily involved in because he had a lot to say about all these movies. Did he not think like maybe we shouldn't put that or was he just so egotistical that he just never thought his shit was gonna come.

[01:15:57] It was just yeah so weird and surreal to see this whole plot line knowing that this shit was actually happening in real life.

[01:16:35] I know. In a sex dungeon you know it's like they willingly came to these parties because they knew that if they you know slept with us and they would get the parts and it's something that's mentioned multiple times throughout the movie like Carrie Fisher mentions it. Angelina mentions it there's it's a really funny moment when when they pick up Roman because he's a suspect and they bring him in and Jennifer's like with a cigarette like remind me not to sleep with him again. But it's like that. But it's like that.

[01:17:02] It's like a recurring theme of like they're you know they're showing you like the dark side of Hollywood like it's so normal to all these women are just like yeah like. You know and that's the environment that was cultivated and like the irony is like he doesn't even see that what he's saying.

[01:17:21] Implicates him like even more because it's like if you're the head of all this and you're normalizing this behavior and you're like oh well like you know the women knew the deal it's like okay well then why but why are you the ringleader setting the deal up. Like you're kind of telling on yourself. I. Is this like was it a way of trying to expose Harvey Weinstein? That's what I was thinking. I kind of feel like yes. Because it was pretty. Spot on. Detailed. Yeah.

[01:17:51] And like they could have just been like oh she had a relationship with the producer but like to go into detail and say multiple men and to get roles and all of this stuff that's pretty. Pretty aligned with what was actually happening. Yeah. Hmm. Was Scream 3 a commentary of what was happening in Hollywood at the time?

[01:18:13] And see that's just another thing that makes this franchise genius is they're constantly pulling and referencing from real life and what it actually is like to make a movie and the things that are actually happening versus like the fictitious things. And like you could go through I mean we could be here for three hours going through like all of these like right inception meta moments you know. Huh. Well.

[01:18:44] Throughout all of this we keep seeing Patrick Dempsey's character as the detective police officer guy that's like trying to figure out what's going on and protect Sidney but he's also kind of sus because he's gunning so hard to get Sidney into the. But it's as if like he tried too hard to be sus so it was like I never even thought of him as being the killer. Yeah.

[01:19:12] And I'm also like trying to pull the thread through how him and Sidney are implied to be together later down in the franchises because I'm like their interactions are weird. Like it's not giving. Maybe they trauma bonded during the finale.

[01:19:32] Kinkade was so forgettable that when they were doing the last scenes of this movie they totally forgot that that bitch just disappeared halfway towards the end and never came back. And they were like oh shit we have to put him in the end because if not like he goes nowhere into ether. No plans whatsoever. So I have to be the opposing counsel here. I really like his character.

[01:19:58] I think that they didn't do it quite right but I like the idea of his character. I think I don't know if like I don't know how much I love his performance. You can tell that Wes told him like be mysterious. Like be creepy. Creepy. Like you know the way that you're talking to her needs to be a little bit weird. Like is this guy actually like a real freak.

[01:20:25] But they give him you know he talks about how like every day he sees ghosts that don't go away. And like he understands he understands in some way what Sidney has is going through because like he sees cases like hers all the time. Like he sees what horrible things people do to each other. And I think that intrigued her. And then he has one line that I think is actually really good and poignant where she starts opening up to him. And she's like you know I don't even know who my mom was.

[01:20:54] And he says you knew who she was to you. Which I just like I remember when that line really clicked for me. I was like oh yeah because you know people are so multifaceted. It's like just focus on like your memories of her. So I feel like that's why they supposedly have a relationship.

[01:21:16] But the thing that sucks about all this that the Scream fan this is like brand new news is that they didn't get Patrick Dempsey for Scream 7. So they don't have him. And they have Joel McHale playing Mark but he's not Mark Kincaid. Even though they put a gun in I can't remember if it was oh it must have been it must have been 5 because Sidney's not in 6.

[01:21:40] They put like there's a gun in Scream 5 that says like Kincaid and that's Sidney's gun like she has his like cop gun that she brings with her right. So they meant for it to be Mark Kincaid. But apparently they wouldn't pay Patrick Dempsey and he has he has a quote and that's it and they wouldn't pay it. And I'm like did you not learn from Nev Campbell last time like just put him in the damn movie like how much could it possibly be that he's asking for. He's not like a Brad Pitt. I don't know. It's gonna make you money. He's asking for a lot.

[01:22:07] I can tell you that just from knowing from the Grey's Anatomy of it all and how he was with his how he was with Ellen Poppeo and all that. He's a diva. So I definitely think he asked for a lot as for what you were saying one. I think it's that line was great what he said to Sidney and it was really nice because truly none of us will know fully what our parents were like in every facet of their life.

[01:22:36] And we should never know. Quite frankly I don't know why Sidney was like I don't even know my mother because at this like the the only thing her mother did was go to Hollywood try to be an actor and she got taken advantage of and raped. So there was nothing that like her mother did. Yes she had a baby but that was like traumatic and why would I tell my teenage child this because when her mom died Sidney was a child still.

[01:23:00] So to like unresolved trauma probably led to her looking to other men to fulfill something that was never going to be fulfilled because of this thing that happened to her when she was young.

[01:23:16] Right like her reaction to it was kind of weird like it would be more like oh my god I I would feel like oh my god I feel so bad that my mom went through all this crap but I don't know about like I don't know my mother like maybe you would have that with the whole cotton thing and her cheating. Yeah that and I guess she didn't tell Sidney because then she would have to like talk about why she left and it just is so much trauma for her.

[01:23:42] Like those studio heads 100% are looking for a certain type of people person right to manipulate to go after. Maureen was so young and really wanted to be in the movie industry and that I that idea that you had to that like this is the process this is how things are done putting herself in a situation. And I'm sure she probably went thinking she could flirt whatever now we know that they are drugging women in these situations especially back then they were drugging them.

[01:24:10] So it wasn't you know that whole thought process that this crazy man has about hey they came willingly but who knows what you did and I'm sure none of those women signed up to be gang raped by multiple men at the same time. That's why everybody should get therapy so you're not a target for crazy ass fucking serial killers and rapists and studio heads. Yeah that's my PSA.

[01:24:35] So now we're on set because Sidney has come to the set for some reason and now she sees the entire Woodsboro which is like what the fuck. Yeah and so it was Wes Craven that wanted to have like this meta scene where she's back in the bedroom kind of fighting Ghostface in ways that she did previously. Like I always really love the closet door blocking the door from opening.

[01:25:06] Yeah. And it's like the first thing she does when she kind of gets an inkling that like shit's about to go wrong it's like she she opens those doors. And of course Ghostface shows up and and there's a squabble and so we know that he's after her again. And I can't even remember how she gets away does she just. I don't know I saw a lot of running. Yeah. Moving around. Fighting and running.

[01:25:33] And at some point she's in the bathroom on set. I think it's right before the the scene where Ghostface catches up to her in the set bedroom. She's in the bathroom which it looks exactly like the bathrooms from the high school. Yeah. And she sees Angelina again being suspicious because she's like standing on the toilet and her purse dumps out and she has a Ghostface mask and a cell phone.

[01:26:00] And so she's like oh I was just because productions shut down I was just taking souvenirs. Right. But Sydney doesn't even really like. She doesn't seem scared or suspicious or anything of this girl. It's like ride her out. Ride her out of this movie. Yeah. If you take her out of this movie it changes nothing. Nothing. Nothing has changed.

[01:26:27] Other than to corroborate Maureen's story about women being taken advantage of. That one line which you could have given to any of the other female characters like Jenny McCarthy's character or something. Yeah definitely. So now Roman's having a party at the producer's house and everyone's invited and Ghostface tricks. Dewey and Gail into coming because it sounds like Sydney's going to the house.

[01:26:56] Which I think I would have hung up and called her right back. I know they don't have the mindset to think that there's this technology that this could happen. But like it doesn't even. Something about it doesn't sound like Sydney. And also like it doesn't seem like something Sydney would do. And like Gail being an investigative journalist. Like you immediately call back to see like was that Sydney's cell phone. Yeah they share protocols by now. Yeah.

[01:27:23] And like I know we live in a day and age where like we have to protect our boomer parents and stuff. So we have like code words and passwords set up and stuff. But like y'all have been through a lot of trauma together. Like just ask her a question only Sydney would know. Right. Like that's it. Like what was the name of my like initial cameraman? Like just something. Right.

[01:27:48] To field him out because the guy had to program that thing so he couldn't just off the cuff. Right. Come up with something. Yeah exactly. So that felt weird to me. Yeah. That they didn't really question it until much later. And Angelina still like somehow still survives this. I don't even remember what happens to her. I think at one point she falls down the stairs. Yeah.

[01:28:17] Well because this is a Scooby Doo house. And so it just has like secret doors and like hallways. It's like the people under the stairs. Where like you can just travel through the stairs. I know it. I know it. I know if you pull the like the specs for his house at that time. I bet you this was his house. I wouldn't doubt it.

[01:28:43] And also the house that they use is also the same house that they used as the school in Halloween H20. And something else but I can't find that note. A lot of stuff ensues here. Ghost face comes. Starts knocking people out. Killing people. Left and right. Poor Jennifer Jolie stuck in. She finds a hidden room.

[01:29:10] Because they're trying to find the secret viewing room that is supposed to be in the house. She gets stuck in there and ghost faces trying to kill her. Dewey and Gale can kind of see the mirrors moving. So they start. He's just shooting. They take way too long to start shooting out the glass. Yeah. And why are you starting at the left when the middle glass pieces are the ones moving? Yeah. Well I think he was trying to avoid shooting her. But if you go top.

[01:29:40] He could have shot up. Yeah. Yeah. At the top of it. Which is what he does. He eventually does it. So like. Her blood is on Dewey's hands. It is. A hundred percent. And this is why he's deputy Dewey. Because where's the thought process with that? Yeah. So she did. Best thing about this movie is gone. Yes. Tragic. And then they go down to like the basement where all of the horror set pieces from all of

[01:30:10] the different movies are. And they see Roman is like dead in a coffin. Stressed or something. Yeah. Oh. Is that what it was? Yeah. Like is that? I thought it was the refrigerator or something. I don't know what it was. I just was like oh that dude bacon. But then like at some point Sydney's down there because she eventually leaves the precinct and like shows up. And or is it Sydney down there? Someone's down there and like they they fall onto the coffin.

[01:30:39] Something happens and the head pops off and it's just like a wax figure. That's Jennifer. Okay. Yeah. She's alive at that point. Because at least Gail was smart enough to check his pulse. Yeah. So it's kind of crazy that she couldn't feel his pulse. She's also not. They shouldn't have included that detail. No. Because I was like but I think they really wanted us. It was a really good fake out I guess for us to rule him out.

[01:31:07] Well no no no that makes sense because she texts his pulse but it's it was never him. It was always like a dummy in there. Oh was it? I think it. Because his head falls off. I think it was him. Oh I'm not sure. But anywho then somehow when it comes down to like just the the four of them he has separated

[01:31:34] Sydney away from the other two and then he of course tells his whole story about finding out who his mother really is and that it was really Maureen and and Sydney looking like she's not here for the shits. Like I have no empathy for this bullshit because like why is it that you find this out and then you want me to pay? He they should not never there shouldn't have been a movie for any of this. He should have killed his shitty dad and that was it. Yeah. Like psychotic.

[01:32:04] Why are you but I mean if it's Nepo baby life and the dad's just been letting him have movies to direct and stuff his whole life he can't. Well I don't know if the guy knew that was his son. I don't know. That's it's like not clear but then the I think the biggest thing for me or the mindfuck of this movie for me was when he said that he started this whole thing that he killed Maureen in the first place.

[01:32:34] Let me tell you Sydney is better than me because the rage that would have been stabbing this motherfucker so many times knowing that this hell I've been through is because of this stupid little shit. Because he also says that he manipulated Billy and Stu. Right. Into. Starting their shenanigans. Shenanigans. Exactly. Yeah. Like fuck you Roman. Yeah. 100 percent.

[01:33:03] Just fuck you all the way up and around the corner. Just like fuck off. So then they try killing him and then we remember Randy's rules which is like you gotta you gotta double tap the head at this point because this bitch got back up and she shot him quite a few times. He shot her and didn't and thought she was dead but she was wearing a bulletproof vest which by the way if I was Sydney I'd be looking like motherfucking blade by this point. I would have leather.

[01:33:33] Like you. Everything. You're not getting me. I don't care if you know or not that I am in full Kevlar and I got a Kevlar helmet on. Everything. Like we're not we're not fucking playing. This is my uniform now. Yeah. 100 percent. So yeah and Kincaid comes in and tries to help and like does nothing. You are a fucking cop. The way he gets laid out.

[01:34:00] The way he gets laid out with Roman smashes his head on the the fireplace mandolin is out. I don't know how Sydney thought that was attractive because I was like not dating that. And then Dewey and Gale are tied up because he wanted to entice Sydney in and so they're like the way the force in which she rips the duct tape off of their mouths.

[01:34:27] I was like damn they they shouldn't have lips left. Like you can be I know you're in a hurry Sydney but also they can't be bleeding all over the place. Just untie me. I will take care of my mouth. Yeah. And like the mouth is the least important part. Right. Especially if you have one of them so they could tell you like oh he went that way or something. Yeah. Instead they're still fucking tied up.

[01:34:55] And also why would you have your back turned? Like these are rules that you should know. Like you know that motherfucker's getting back up again. I am like turned this way to look because he's like watch out Sydney. I'm like no I can't. Just let it be over. Let it be over. So it is Rowan. He got shot. He dead dead. No he got he got stabbed. Sydney found stabbing things at the bar. Stabby stabs. So Roman is dead.

[01:35:25] Dewey and Gail arrived to assist Sydney and so it's another win for Team Wordsboro. Well they don't really do anything. Like they're like trying so hard to get into the room and they can't. That was so hilarious to me where Roman's real nervous because he doesn't know what door what secret door they're going to pop out of. But you could just hear them in the walls like this one's locked. Let's go to the other one. And like they're just scurrying around.

[01:35:54] I'm like what is this? Well they did set up that it's like that it is like a Scooby-Doo house so it makes sense what they're doing. But it's just kind of like funny because they're just like failing so hard and there's like this extremely dramatic like not just your typical scream killer end scene but like all this like familial stuff.

[01:36:17] And I mean like okay as someone who's obsessed with the franchise I don't like the idea that Billy and Stu were not behind it. Like I love the original movie so much and I love those characters and I don't want their autonomy taken away from them. I also think like imagine some random guy comes to you and like tries to get you to kill for him.

[01:36:44] Like I you know there's not that many like Charles Manson's out there that are like that convincing. I mean yeah I think those two had to be crazy already for him to be able to say and I don't think he said oh kill for me. I think it was more like this I think he's maybe I don't even know if he like set them up in the sense that he talked to them directly because he doesn't say that. He just said he put them on that path so I don't know if he sent pictures to them to kind of get the ball rolling.

[01:37:14] But I think they had to be crazy in the first place. Yeah they I mean he really had to count on that Billy would be angry enough with Maureen for being the other woman. Yeah. Like if that was me. To kill his girlfriend. Yeah. If that was me I'd be like more mad at my dad. Yeah. Yeah. So like I don't know but so I don't like taking that away from Billy and Stu. However I love the scene between Neve Campbell and Scott Foley.

[01:37:42] I think she's awesome in this scene. Everything from like the physicality to like her combination of like anger and then emotion because she's like oh my god like I have a brother. But at the same time like I'm going to kill him right now. So there's no bonding happening and I think that I love how she says I've heard this shit before.

[01:38:07] I've already been through this like you're not going to convince me that you have this really compelling reason for doing this. And she just says like do you know why you kill people because you choose to. That's it. Like there's nothing deeper behind it. Like you're choosing to do this and you don't have to. And it comes from like all this jealousy of like which isn't even true because but Roman is like you got to have a mother and a white picket fence and she just like discarded me like I'm nothing.

[01:38:35] So the whole thing is like a jealousy thing toward her. And it's like what I mean I understand like in his sick mind like why it would make sense for him to kill Maureen because he because he's like oh you abandoned me. But Sydney didn't do anything. And it's the same thing with Billy like Sydney didn't do anything. Like it makes sense why Billy would kill Maureen. Yeah. But Sydney once again didn't do anything and she's just like so tired of being victimized.

[01:39:02] She's like how many more times do I have to do this. And I really like though how their fight kind of like winds down when he realizes okay like she got me. And they like hold hands as he dies because at the end of the day that is your blood. You know what I mean like it's your it's your sibling. But so yeah I like I it's weird I kind of think of it almost like in a vacuum. It's like this scene like I really like this scene and I like that the scene exists.

[01:39:29] But at the same time I don't want to connect it to the first movie. So I think I just kind of like think of it as like I mean they could have just done Roman is the director of the movie. Yeah. And that's why he's the killer. Like he's obsessed with this he's obsessed with the first stab movie. Like he really wanted to direct this franchise. He you know maybe he like has case files on Sydney and Dewey and Gale and all that kind of stuff. Like I think that would have been fine.

[01:39:56] I don't know why they had to go into this whole thing of like he's the brother and then they a lot of people say well it's our reference to Halloween with Michael Myers being the brother as well. And I'm just like I don't know I don't like retconning the original. Yeah. Yeah that is the one part of it that is just really annoying. Yeah.

[01:40:17] And then at the end we get an engagement for Gale and and Dewey which is really cute because he uses one of her books and cuts a hole in it and there's a ring so that was super sweet. And then Mark is just like you're gonna miss the movie Sydney. It was just I was like okay I don't. With his arm and like an old session sling. Right. For doing fucking nothing. I can't. And that is that's it. That's Scream 3.

[01:40:46] That's Scream 3. We did it. Let's quickly see what other fun things. We don't have to do all these but any fun facts. So apparently the scene for Randy was two hours of footage for that three minute scene. Which I want to see released. Release the Randy cut. Yeah. The Jamie Kennedy cut release it.

[01:41:14] In January of 2003 months after completing principal photography the ending was reshot when it was decided to be an inadequate conclusion. So originally the ending consisted of Sydney easily defeating Roman which led into an early morning scene of police arriving and then into the final scene of Sydney in her home. Which I mean that's how the first one ends. Yeah.

[01:41:40] So I mean I think it would have been I would have been fine with like that nice homage to the original. Yeah. But as long as he's dead I don't care if it was easy or not. Like he needed to die. That that was it. So but that's just me. It said that the script for the film was so in flux that the epilogue scene was filmed with three variants of Patrick Dempsey's character. One with him absent. One with his where his arm is bandaged.

[01:42:09] And one with him in a normal condition. As the production we're not certain what his ultimate fate would be following the finalization of the film. So that maybe that also gives to his like his performance because it's like all over the place. Yeah. Yeah. I think the like I think this was just like a very common trope of the time. It's like everything had to like end in a nice little romantic bow. Yeah.

[01:42:38] Like whatever even like even if two characters in the movie had no chemistry or anything it's like oh there's a guy and a girl. So like they have to be together by the end. Yeah. But it gets like it's almost like a little too like him being there. I'm like I don't think he has to be there. Like I think it would be better with just her Dewey and Gale. But I guess maybe they felt like she was like third wheeling. But it's like we don't really care that much about this new person. Right. It's nice like okay. Like Sydney has a boyfriend that can like defend himself.

[01:43:07] Like he knows what he's doing. Barely. He's probably not going to get murdered by a ghost face or whatever. Not sure. But I think it's funny how they leave the door like how the door opens and she like looks at the door and she just like walks away because they're trying to say like she now feels safe. Like she feels comfortable. And I do like that as an ending for her but I just don't think that it I don't think it really makes sense because I don't think your guard would ever be down ever after that.

[01:43:35] I think you would hear a pin drop and be like this. You know what I mean? So it's a nice thought but it's just like a little too like. Keep comfortable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do like that Roman complains that he had to make a horror film before he was allowed to make a classic love story.

[01:43:57] And apparently this is something that happened to Wes Craven because he had to agree to do this movie before he was allowed to make the movie Music of the Heart with Gloria Estefan. I know she's not the lead but I love her in that movie and Meryl Streep. Like so solid. Okay. Yeah.

[01:44:19] I actually remember him talking about how he made this movie around the same time as Scream 4 called My Soul to Take which like everybody hated. And it and I think like part of the deal of him like doing another Scream and like all that kind of stuff is like he wanted to make other movies too. And so he would kind of like use his leverage with Scream to do that.

[01:44:43] And he talked about how like even though Scream 4 was like critically well reviewed and like the fans loved it and everything. Like he was so heartbroken by the reaction to My Soul to Take. Like and like how he like people think of him as like such an iconic like legendary accomplished horror director. But he feels like the only thing that people care about that he's done is like Scream and Nightmare on Elm Street.

[01:45:10] And like he like we see him as like so iconic and like he saw himself as like a failure outside of these like franchises. Yeah it's always funny that we as humans are so hard on ourselves and we only you know like I just think about Michael Jordan wanting to play golf. I feel like greedy right. You know like baseball and baseball right.

[01:45:39] Like you are the best basketball player of all time. And it's okay. Like people would die for that. Stay in your lane. Right. Like be I do think it it's like gratefulness right. Being humble enough to be grateful that you have this gift this skill. And lean into it.

[01:46:04] And I always find it funny especially with actors and directors where they don't want to be typecast or whatever. But it's not until years later that they get the retrospect that oh my god people love me for this thing that I hated so much. Yeah. For myself. And I should just be like so grateful that people love my work in this particular thing. It may not be everything else that I wanted but like I don't know that always annoys me.

[01:46:33] I hate actors that get really high and mighty about. Yeah. I can't do that. I love the actors that like really embrace like Matthew Lillard with Shaggy. Like I'll play that role forever. Like let's do it. Yeah. He is he's like I'll take it. Whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Lean in and stop being so like hoity toity about shit. Like give me a break. If Meryl Streep can do Devil Wears Prada y'all could do some other things.

[01:47:00] Like diversify and have fun but don't take yourself so seriously. Yeah. There are so many actors that are never known for anything to begin with. Right. So if you're known for anything and people still care about it like 20 years later that's pretty cool. Yeah. That's fucking awesome. Yeah. All right. So why don't you tell everybody where they can find you on social and your podcast before we get into ratings. Okay. So everyone check out the Ashley and Jessica cast.

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[01:48:23] It's it's not my favorite. I would still do a would buy only because it's just like it's just a set. I don't I don't love it as much as the other two. But I could still see myself like watching one, two, three, one, two, three. Like it is what it is. I would only watch it if I was watching the entire series. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, if you have any opinions on Scream 3, want to tell me I'm wrong.

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[01:49:21] And look, we'll get into it. Okay. Because there's a science behind it all. Okay. And thank you, Leah, for joining us. As always, it was such a great conversation. And I love your passion for Scream 3. Yes. Honestly, you didn't even hear the half of the iceberg. But it's okay. I'll leave that for my book.

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