Spice World

[00:00:00] This is their lemonade, this is their visual album. I'm sick of them calling it a movie. There's no plot. The only thing is that they got to get to a show and their friend is pregnant. That's it. And they're so kids are there.

[00:00:14] There's a sub plot of it being a movie in a movie. Yeah, that's it.

[00:00:18] There were so many sub plots. I'm like, where are we? And then at the end, I was like, so were we in the movie the whole time that they were pitching? Like, I was so confused. This week, we're talking about the classic 1997 comedy Spice World.

[00:00:34] Welcome to the No More Late Fees podcast. I'm Jackie and I'm Danielle and we're just two best friends and Xbox, Buster Employees, you're watching some of the best of worst movies from the late 90s and early 2000s. This week, we are talking about the classic 1997 comedy Spice World with our guests, Timmy and Andrew. Welcome guys.

[00:01:03] Hello.

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[00:01:56] Yeah, some of the things that hit the cutting room floor are quite hilarious. So definitely worth checking out.

[00:02:02] Let's get into the movie so we are doing Spice World as I said. So hang on to your niggas pump up your platforms and fast and your seat belts because the Spice Girls take center stage in their feature film debut Spice World.

[00:02:16] A roller coaster ride which will spice up your life and open your eyes very wide. The movie stars Victoria Adams Emma Bunton, males Chisholm, Jerry Hallowell, Mel Brown, Richard E Grant, Alan coming, George went Claire Rushbrook, Mark McKinney and Roger Moore.

[00:02:37] The movie was directed by Bob Spears and written by Kim Fuller. Unfortunately, it's not streaming anywhere and you can watch it on DVD or the streets may be calling for you to get it.

[00:02:53] But before we get started, let's jump into our ratings rewind.

[00:03:00] So you know the drill before we get into the movie will reveal the rating are Y2K versions of ourselves would give then at the end, we'll see if our current solves agree with our initial rating our scale consists of would buy it would buy it again.

[00:03:15] Sorry, the best would plan repeat five darrens all will watch again two darrens all nothing to write home about and same darrens all garbage rubbish.

[00:03:29] Yeah.

[00:03:32] So Andrew what is your Y2K rating Spice World?

[00:03:38] Oh, it's not the list would see it would see it again.

[00:03:43] Yeah.

[00:03:44] Excellent. How about you Timmy?

[00:03:46] I bought it. I bought it. I bought it. I will buy it again. I think I have bought it again once I went into somebody because it was so good.

[00:03:53] Yes.

[00:03:54] I'm not going to be honest.

[00:03:57] I don't know if you can tell.

[00:04:00] To be honest, like.

[00:04:02] And we could talk about it more.

[00:04:04] I just I know I watched it.

[00:04:07] And I never I don't think I even thought like oh, I hated this or I loved it. I just knew that I didn't watch it again after this.

[00:04:14] I think it would come on maybe on HBO. Maybe I don't know.

[00:04:17] Something like that. And I would watch the clips.

[00:04:21] And I did buy the album. I had this one album and that was it.

[00:04:27] Like, that was all she wrote back then.

[00:04:32] I think that was the best album ever.

[00:04:35] Great.

[00:04:36] For myself, I owned it on VHS.

[00:04:40] Fariol fashion sentence.

[00:04:42] And it may have been a fever dream I had, but I feel like I had the poster because I used to get the movie poster sometimes from a friend who worked at the theater.

[00:04:51] I'm pretty sure I had the movie poster in my room as well.

[00:04:54] I'm sorry guys that I ruined it.

[00:04:56] Again, I didn't get it, but I did it by it.

[00:05:00] You have to be true to yourself.

[00:05:03] Yeah.

[00:05:04] I don't know.

[00:05:05] You all liked it for very different reasons.

[00:05:07] And you know what was weird?

[00:05:10] Like, when I think about the fever at the time with like boy bands and there were a bunch of girl groups too,

[00:05:19] I loved all the spice girl songs, but I also felt like maybe because we were a little bit older.

[00:05:25] I remember like some of the younger people just obsessing, but also they were it was such a short timeframe.

[00:05:33] Like it's a blink of an eye.

[00:05:35] I do appreciate that they brought the platform shoes really pushed that in because I love me some platform shoes.

[00:05:43] It was definitely an era for sure.

[00:05:46] It was.

[00:05:47] I think when they came out, I was at camp and we all played like spice girls right.

[00:05:54] I think so many women experienced this when they were younger at that time.

[00:05:59] And it used to piss me off.

[00:06:01] And some boys yes sorry.

[00:06:05] But he's to piss me off that I could not like any of the other personalities.

[00:06:10] So many people would say I'd have to be scary spice.

[00:06:13] And I love Melby. She had like, I think I liked her wardrobe the most, but I loved dresses and wanted to be baby spice.

[00:06:21] And I could not be baby spice because I was always pushed to be scary spice.

[00:06:27] I didn't want you to be baby spice.

[00:06:30] I know you would.

[00:06:31] What who would you be?

[00:06:33] Oh, I was scary and I have.

[00:06:36] I'm looking for right now because I have a photo of me dressed as scary spice on my phone somewhere.

[00:06:42] So hold please I can see if I can find it.

[00:06:45] Is this the episode where they got canceled?

[00:06:49] Andrew Timmy, did you guys have a favorite?

[00:06:52] Ginger absolutely.

[00:06:55] Which ginger?

[00:06:57] Andrew's yours is ginger?

[00:06:59] Oh, ginger yeah.

[00:07:00] Ginger and Melby.

[00:07:02] Oh, it was between those two.

[00:07:04] And Timmy.

[00:07:05] Mine was absolutely posh no doubt.

[00:07:07] I just resonate with her.

[00:07:10] I always have even though today, I don't do all post videos of these shots.

[00:07:15] Yes.

[00:07:16] You know, let check out the link in bio.

[00:07:21] I'm currently dressed as a posh slash scary spice.

[00:07:26] Not much to you to print my lover.

[00:07:29] No, I think I think that was what was so great about them like in boy bands.

[00:07:34] But there's archetypes of the different types of boy bands.

[00:07:37] Members like the shy one, the one who's too old to be in this group.

[00:07:42] The one who's way younger than everyone else, you know that kind of stuff.

[00:07:46] But I don't think we really saw those kind of archetypes in girl bands as much or girl groups.

[00:07:54] And they all just had such unique styles and characteristics.

[00:08:00] And they really did play into it.

[00:08:03] And I don't think it was too far from their real personality either.

[00:08:06] They just felt authentic and accessible like a lot of the other groups at that time.

[00:08:12] I didn't feel like I could be friends and hang out with them if that makes.

[00:08:18] And I feel like even to this day, they still give that vibe that you could just be friends.

[00:08:24] They're like cool people to just have a beer with, you know.

[00:08:28] I love that about them.

[00:08:31] All right, let's get into the box office.

[00:08:34] So this movie had a budget of $25 million.

[00:08:38] Now there's some varying.

[00:08:42] Backs and figures that I got for what the worldwide box office was.

[00:08:48] Some say 56 million say some say over 100 million when you start to include the VHS sales.

[00:08:55] And I feel like that's probably more accurate.

[00:08:58] But it still did pretty well considering.

[00:09:01] And what how the movie came about was as a popularity of their group grew,

[00:09:07] the Walt Disney company actually approached them to make a movie.

[00:09:11] And the band turned it down because they did not like the Disney Fides script.

[00:09:16] So I guess the original script was about a young single mother of one of the girls fighting hardship to form the band.

[00:09:24] But Kim Fuller, who is actually the sister of Simon Fuller, who was the band's manager decided to write the screenplay for the Spice Girls movie herself.

[00:09:34] I meant to go dig deep to see if she's written anything else because.

[00:09:41] I'll leave it there.

[00:09:44] So yeah, that's how the movie even came about.

[00:09:47] So they just the Spice Girls.

[00:09:49] I think came up with their original concept along with Kim Fuller and then she wrote it.

[00:09:54] And I think they wrote it pretty quickly too.

[00:09:57] It was originally released on VHS in May of 98.

[00:10:02] And so what ended up happening is not just with the VHS, but the actual release.

[00:10:07] The production company or the company that was releasing it didn't have enough money to release it.

[00:10:12] They wanted to release it in the UK at the same time with America, but they didn't have the funding.

[00:10:18] So they had to release it in the UK first and then they did the US, which actually I think became an issue because.

[00:10:26] It struggled in the box office because it came out in December 97 in Titanic kind of quickly took over the box office.

[00:10:35] I didn't have time.

[00:10:36] Yeah.

[00:10:37] Why are you always standing on tight time talking.

[00:10:41] I am just reading the facts as they are stated.

[00:10:46] Everything is ruined.

[00:10:49] Yes, Jackie, you're right.

[00:10:53] It did have an uphill battle with fighting with the Titanic.

[00:10:58] But it was actually when it was released for VHS that it caused a problem.

[00:11:02] They released it in May in 98 for the UK Germany, Spain, Netherlands, Japan and Australia.

[00:11:09] And then had to release in June of 98 on VHS for US and Canada.

[00:11:14] And I think that was the issue too.

[00:11:17] They split it up because it came out in theaters later, so they had split it.

[00:11:23] In of 98, that's pretty fast for a VHS back then.

[00:11:26] It sounds like.

[00:11:27] Yeah, but.

[00:11:30] Yeah.

[00:11:31] I remember Titanic was like number one of the box office for like every month or something.

[00:11:36] Yeah.

[00:11:38] So they were afraid to release the VHS because it was quote,

[00:11:43] they were concerned that the high profile departure of Jerry from the Spice Girls

[00:11:49] was actually going to affect sales and global demand.

[00:11:53] I don't see why they would be afraid of that.

[00:11:55] I would think more people would want to buy the VHS because they know Jerry left

[00:11:59] and it's like the last thing that they did together.

[00:12:02] Yeah.

[00:12:03] No publicity is bad publicity.

[00:12:05] None whatsoever.

[00:12:07] She was very popular with whatever reason at the time.

[00:12:10] I think remembering she was like kind of huge in that group.

[00:12:13] Yeah, she was the de facto leader or made herself that.

[00:12:19] And I think Melcy and her memoir talks about the fact that.

[00:12:23] I think they've all actually talked about it in there.

[00:12:27] That ginger was not as good as a dancer.

[00:12:30] And we're all like classically trained.

[00:12:33] So to speak or dance backgrounds.

[00:12:36] And ginger was not and some of their moves were very basic.

[00:12:40] And you can see, go back even to the wannabe video she's struggling with the dancing.

[00:12:45] So that's why she kind of was like, you know what?

[00:12:48] I'll be the so called manager of the band and she was very vocal.

[00:12:53] So it also caused fights and issues.

[00:12:57] But yeah.

[00:12:59] But the VHS was very, did very well on the video chart.

[00:13:03] It was for like six consecutive weeks was certified 11 times platinum

[00:13:08] and became the nine best selling video of 1998.

[00:13:11] And it peaked at number one on the video charts for five consecutive weeks in the US.

[00:13:16] And was the fifth best selling best selling video of 98.

[00:13:20] And if you think about that time, that's there's a lot of competition back then.

[00:13:24] Yeah, that's crazy.

[00:13:28] So yeah, it was killing it.

[00:13:30] But I do want to read this thing because our boy Roger Ebert.

[00:13:36] He should have done it pretty bad, but I.

[00:13:39] The watch doesn't come to play now.

[00:13:43] Now the final spice girls.

[00:13:45] Yeah, he.

[00:13:47] But you know what they like everybody kind of shit it on it.

[00:13:51] But now it's like turned around.

[00:13:54] Yeah, it's like Rocky Harbor where like it was so campy and so over the top.

[00:13:59] That it's got like a cold fall.

[00:14:01] Roger Ebert gave it half a star.

[00:14:04] Yeah.

[00:14:05] Little Roger was not playing.

[00:14:07] Was he still at that time?

[00:14:09] Was it just Roger and not his school?

[00:14:13] I don't know.

[00:14:14] I think I don't know when one of them died once his good.

[00:14:17] Yes.

[00:14:18] I'm seeing this on Roger Ebert dot com.

[00:14:21] I think they're easy to tell apart the Ninja Turtles, but that's a small consolation.

[00:14:26] What can you say about five women whose principal distinguishing characteristic is that they have different names.

[00:14:33] That's a burn.

[00:14:36] They're so detached.

[00:14:37] They can't even successfully lip sync their own songs during our hersel scene.

[00:14:41] The director tells them with such truth that we knew hearing a secret message from the screener.

[00:14:45] That was absolutely perfect without being actually any good.

[00:14:49] I'm sorry, but I'm not sure if the screener is the best.

[00:14:51] Thanks.

[00:14:52] It's a great conversation, but it's a sad piece of stress.

[00:14:56] This is only about like four paragraphs along, but it is rough.

[00:14:58] It's a third degree burn, y'all.

[00:15:01] I'll wreck.

[00:15:03] A lacking in human characteristics of the girls that when the screenplay falls back on the last resort.

[00:15:08] Of the bankrupt filmmakers imagination, a live childhood scene, they have to import one of their friends to have the baby.

[00:15:13] She at least had the wit to get pregnant something beyond the girls since it was involved at our relationship and thus an attention span.

[00:15:18] Whoa.

[00:15:20] He was having a bad day.

[00:15:24] I didn't like it.

[00:15:26] Oh my god.

[00:15:28] Not only did Kim Fuller, you guys ready for this?

[00:15:32] Kim Fuller, the screenplay.

[00:15:34] Okay.

[00:15:35] Not only did Kim Fuller, the screenwriter of the Spice World,

[00:15:40] write this movie, she wrote from Justin to Kelly.

[00:15:45] Oh, it makes sense.

[00:15:47] I'm not sure if she's going to write it.

[00:15:49] I'm not sure if she's going to write it.

[00:15:51] That's all I need to know.

[00:15:53] Are we sure Kim Fuller is a woman?

[00:15:55] Because I've seen Kim Fuller as a man.

[00:15:57] Really?

[00:15:58] It's a sister.

[00:16:00] Oh.

[00:16:01] I don't know if you see Kim Fuller,

[00:16:03] did he write Spice World?

[00:16:05] That's so clear.

[00:16:06] But yeah, I don't see Justin Kelly.

[00:16:08] I don't see Justin Kelly.

[00:16:10] Oh, I see Justin Kelly as well.

[00:16:12] Yes.

[00:16:13] Is it a hero or a she?

[00:16:16] That story.

[00:16:19] Както.

[00:16:21] Sound like a belle.

[00:16:23] It's the same person, so weird.

[00:16:24] Okay, let me look and maybe a he.

[00:16:26] I could've been wrong.

[00:16:27] If it's a buzzfeed we've got to get rid of them and they can't trust them in you.

[00:16:29] It's not a buzzfeed.

[00:16:30] It was on Mdb, probably.

[00:16:31] Kim Fuller.

[00:16:32] English screenwriter,

[00:16:34] music manager.

[00:16:38] Yes.

[00:16:39] I'm gonna throw it.

[00:16:40] I'm gonna make it go much better

[00:16:45] because it makes us almost there.

[00:16:48] So Kim Fuller,

[00:16:50] the brother assignment for.

[00:16:52] He had him.

[00:16:54] He had him.

[00:16:57] Not only wrote Spice World,

[00:17:00] but wrote from Justin DeKelli.

[00:17:02] Like,

[00:17:04] someone get this man's pen immediately.

[00:17:08] Did he write anything else?

[00:17:10] Or just these two master.

[00:17:12] He wrote Postman Pat the movie.

[00:17:15] That's Club Seven TV show.

[00:17:17] There you go.

[00:17:18] Scene W.

[00:17:19] That tracks.

[00:17:20] High heels and low lives.

[00:17:24] Love, love, love, a musical.

[00:17:29] There you go.

[00:17:30] But yeah, see what a movie,

[00:17:32] Scene Double.S Club,

[00:17:33] put on the clones.

[00:17:34] Something called Scene Double.

[00:17:36] High heels and low lives.

[00:17:38] Yep.

[00:17:41] Yeah.

[00:17:43] Well, okay.

[00:17:45] Okay, well he's a man.

[00:17:47] We've learned new things.

[00:17:48] He's a man.

[00:17:50] Men can be called Kim.

[00:17:55] He needs to put his pen down.

[00:17:57] Yes.

[00:17:59] And nepotism is strong.

[00:18:02] So there's a lot of people in this movie, guys.

[00:18:05] And I think for us Americans watching it,

[00:18:09] it doesn't have the same appeals.

[00:18:11] Probably some of the British people.

[00:18:13] I know they had to change a few lines in this movie

[00:18:15] to appeal to us.

[00:18:17] But who do you in the blue fish?

[00:18:19] Yeah, the blue fish line had to be changed.

[00:18:22] So I think a lot of the people that show up,

[00:18:24] I think like we recognize them,

[00:18:26] but we don't have the same like,

[00:18:28] it's not the same because Hugh Laurie at that time,

[00:18:32] we didn't know that bitch.

[00:18:34] He wasn't in the house yet.

[00:18:36] Yeah.

[00:18:37] And Stephen Freilers like his comedic partner

[00:18:39] left all time too.

[00:18:40] He was in the house of Judge.

[00:18:42] So we're like, I know Roger Moore.

[00:18:45] That's James Bond.

[00:18:47] And he was like the worst one.

[00:18:50] It took me until okay.

[00:18:52] So the other ones that surprised me were

[00:18:55] and I can't remember his name because I just know him

[00:18:58] as Dave, Dave Maddena is the editor,

[00:19:01] but not as Dave Maddena.

[00:19:04] The name Barry Hunter.

[00:19:06] Yes.

[00:19:08] And then the guy that plays Damien,

[00:19:10] they're really creepy like getting the inside scoop guy.

[00:19:15] Yeah.

[00:19:16] He's riffraff and Rocky Horror and wrote Rocky Horror.

[00:19:20] Yeah.

[00:19:20] And I'm like, I've only ever seen him as riffraff.

[00:19:22] So I didn't recognize him.

[00:19:24] But then after like, I read that, I was like, huh.

[00:19:28] That's a new idea.

[00:19:29] Didn't realize.

[00:19:30] I didn't realize like, I watched that whole movie last night

[00:19:34] and didn't realize it was riffraff until the end credits

[00:19:38] where he's like trying to find his motivation.

[00:19:40] I was like, why are you in the same credit?

[00:19:42] And then I rewout like, what back?

[00:19:44] I was like, oh, he's been in this movie this whole time.

[00:19:47] Yeah.

[00:19:48] I didn't realize the other one.

[00:19:51] The other one is what?

[00:19:55] The other ones that were like big for me.

[00:19:58] Alan coming obviously.

[00:20:00] He's also going through a bit of a resurgence with traders.

[00:20:03] Yes.

[00:20:04] He is so fabulous on traders.

[00:20:08] So good.

[00:20:09] Zero fucks in as is a campy and flamboyant

[00:20:14] as he wants to be in his perfection.

[00:20:17] Every like yes, agree.

[00:20:19] And it's so funny.

[00:20:20] Like I hate his outfits so much that they become beautiful again.

[00:20:24] Does that make sense?

[00:20:26] Like they're so heinous that they've gone from awful back

[00:20:31] to fabulous.

[00:20:32] And I love him for it.

[00:20:33] And he's funny.

[00:20:34] He's a funny dude, but it's so funny how he like camps

[00:20:37] the fuck out of that show.

[00:20:39] He's like, oh my little, you know, whatever.

[00:20:44] And he like draws out and like rolls his Rs.

[00:20:47] It's so good.

[00:20:49] It's so good.

[00:20:51] The that long lady in his in there like team,

[00:20:54] she was in fighting doors.

[00:20:56] Oh yeah, that's right.

[00:20:58] I forgot.

[00:21:00] Deborah.

[00:21:01] Is that him?

[00:21:02] He loaf.

[00:21:02] He's a little just rent like like there's no fair.

[00:21:07] What's all of it?

[00:21:08] I'm like, that's meatloaf y'all.

[00:21:09] There's two people from Rocky Horror picture show

[00:21:12] in this movie.

[00:21:13] Yes.

[00:21:14] Isn't it crazy that Alan Cummings is in this movie?

[00:21:17] And then literally plays almost the like, I don't know.

[00:21:23] I feel like the manager in Spice World

[00:21:26] is like the pre cursor to the manager,

[00:21:30] the Alan Cummings plays in Josie and the pussycats a little bit

[00:21:34] just like having to wrangle these people.

[00:21:37] And for the longest time, I associated with the fact

[00:21:41] that I thought Alan Cumming was the manager in Spice World

[00:21:44] because of Josie.

[00:21:45] Like I just kind of thought he played both roles but then.

[00:21:48] I did too.

[00:21:50] I was like, who is this Clifford and why is he not Alan Cumming?

[00:21:54] I don't know how the Clifford characters

[00:21:56] also like the supervillain in a way.

[00:21:59] Like I haven't described it in a minute.

[00:22:01] Like who's a cartoon?

[00:22:03] Yes.

[00:22:05] I think it's like yes, the movie's can't be.

[00:22:09] Yes, I have no idea what the plot is.

[00:22:12] But at the same time, it does give you kind of a glimpse

[00:22:17] into how much of their life that they can't necessarily control,

[00:22:22] that they're constantly touring,

[00:22:24] they're having to deal with someone really not giving a shit

[00:22:28] about them having a life.

[00:22:30] I think it did a really good job

[00:22:32] of showing that a little bit at least.

[00:22:35] And for us, can't be and as wacky as it is

[00:22:38] because I was thinking about,

[00:22:39] I'm like, how are we even gonna explain this movie

[00:22:42] because it's just what it is?

[00:22:44] I think we can just talk about it.

[00:22:46] Yeah, I think we're just not gonna go in any particular order.

[00:22:49] But it has such heart.

[00:22:51] Like it just you feel like the girls are always so positive about everything.

[00:22:57] And even when like shit's not going their way,

[00:22:59] they're like, we're gonna figure it out

[00:23:01] or like we're gonna do what's best for our friends

[00:23:04] or our fans and stuff like that.

[00:23:06] So I just like as much as it is

[00:23:09] can't be in like what the fuck am I watching?

[00:23:12] You're like sitting there like still

[00:23:13] rooting for the spice girls

[00:23:15] because at the end of the day,

[00:23:17] like they just care so much.

[00:23:21] All I could say is posh spice or Victoria Beckham

[00:23:25] is one of the funniest human beings so fucking funny.

[00:23:29] Even like if you look at her clips

[00:23:32] from like on social media and stuff,

[00:23:34] I still haven't watched the David Beckham's

[00:23:37] and that flicks thing.

[00:23:38] I think it's not documentary.

[00:23:40] I don't see why I've been saying that.

[00:23:41] Yeah, that was cool.

[00:23:42] I love like how he like makes fun of her,

[00:23:45] but there's clips about them or whatever.

[00:23:48] But she like is really funny

[00:23:50] and I love how she's so just loyal to the other girls

[00:23:55] because you know Melby and Eddie Murphy had a child together

[00:24:00] and it was just like messy and all this other stuff.

[00:24:02] But anytime Victoria gets a chance,

[00:24:06] she will slander that man's name.

[00:24:09] She will slander Eddie Murphy's name.

[00:24:12] She even said she'd cut off his dick

[00:24:14] if she could like she does not play.

[00:24:18] And there, I think there was an interview once

[00:24:19] where it was her and Melby

[00:24:21] and the guy was like giving Melby a problem

[00:24:24] and Victoria was like,

[00:24:26] do you not realize we're both in the spice girls

[00:24:28] and how it like fuck your shit up?

[00:24:30] I was like she is just die hard.

[00:24:34] They all are for each other, you know?

[00:24:36] And they're so open about yeah,

[00:24:39] she pissed me off where she's annoying,

[00:24:40] but I still love her and they're fine with it.

[00:24:42] I don't know, I love that about them.

[00:24:44] I love her so much.

[00:24:46] Like just watching the movie again,

[00:24:48] seeing the scenes where they're in like the obstacle course.

[00:24:53] Oh my God, just she made the movie.

[00:24:56] Those heels were crazy.

[00:24:58] Amazing, I make fabulous no notes.

[00:25:01] She is so good.

[00:25:03] And she's just, she's so unapologetically herself.

[00:25:07] And the way like the comedic timing it takes

[00:25:11] for her to like stop and like shimmy her dress down

[00:25:14] a little bit because it's writing up as she's walking

[00:25:16] off like what is this genius?

[00:25:19] She made me.

[00:25:20] That was her drinking game out of her adjusting her dress.

[00:25:25] But I think she's drunk by the end.

[00:25:28] When they fall into the water,

[00:25:31] I don't remember what she said,

[00:25:32] but she's the way she says,

[00:25:34] but she's so.

[00:25:35] She's just joking only.

[00:25:41] So good.

[00:25:42] Like out of all of the things I wrote down

[00:25:46] that weren't just specifically like keeping track

[00:25:48] of the movie, I was just like making notes about posh.

[00:25:51] Like she just, and it's so subtle at times

[00:25:56] but you're like how are you this damn good at?

[00:25:59] Like your comedic timing and just doing the little wings

[00:26:03] and nods that like you know the audience is going to get.

[00:26:07] So I am a posh fan for life, 100%.

[00:26:12] She's so dry.

[00:26:13] She has.

[00:26:14] And that's the best part.

[00:26:15] And I made it out.

[00:26:16] I love how posh kind of makes herself a butt of jokes too.

[00:26:20] Yes.

[00:26:21] And like she just the low energy,

[00:26:25] the slight irritation at everybody else's antics

[00:26:28] but also the news.

[00:26:30] Like it kind of reminds me of my husband,

[00:26:33] like I just, he does that, he does it all

[00:26:36] and I'm just constantly sitting there

[00:26:38] like I'm like, why is he doing that?

[00:26:40] I love him.

[00:26:40] He's great.

[00:26:42] But like why is he got to do so much?

[00:26:46] I love how Jerry,

[00:26:50] again each of them are playing like an exaggerated version

[00:26:53] of themselves and I think that's why you don't go

[00:26:57] on this movie like you know it's campy,

[00:26:59] you know it's like horrible essentially.

[00:27:01] But you can't say like oh they're bad actresses per se

[00:27:06] because it doesn't feel like they're acting.

[00:27:09] It really does feel like it's just them

[00:27:12] but I know that it's an exaggeration of themselves

[00:27:15] and how much each of them are okay

[00:27:18] with poking fun at themselves.

[00:27:19] Yes.

[00:27:20] And Jerry constantly having facts on facts

[00:27:24] and just like knowing a little bit of everything

[00:27:27] makes me crack up every day.

[00:27:29] And most of them are wrong.

[00:27:30] Yeah.

[00:27:33] Okay, you all are.

[00:27:34] I roll out there at the same time

[00:27:35] when she brings up a record.

[00:27:36] It's like it's like oh this bitch again.

[00:27:40] Are you ready?

[00:27:41] I found my scary spice picture.

[00:27:43] Oh, it's my back.

[00:27:44] Hold on.

[00:27:45] I like the Milan nudity scene.

[00:27:49] I know I didn't put the buttons in there

[00:27:51] but this is definitely my favorite.

[00:27:53] Okay.

[00:27:55] There she is.

[00:27:56] There she is.

[00:27:58] I'm wearing silver plethora pants

[00:28:01] and like a long-sleeved shimmery purple top

[00:28:04] and my makeup is very,

[00:28:06] I'm acting the part too.

[00:28:08] I'm trying to be scary.

[00:28:10] I don't, this was my interpretation.

[00:28:12] I don't know what part.

[00:28:15] Feel a little like ash spice.

[00:28:17] It gives very emo Jackie.

[00:28:19] It gives more Alanis Morse.

[00:28:23] This was also before I color matched to my skin tone

[00:28:26] so I always just looked really white.

[00:28:29] It wasn't an emo choice.

[00:28:31] It was just,

[00:28:32] I didn't know about makeup choice.

[00:28:34] Did anybody else recognize that their pregnant friend

[00:28:37] that that was the worst pregnant belly I've ever seen?

[00:28:40] Like you could literally see,

[00:28:42] they like pan in and you can see the lumps.

[00:28:44] Like it was like a pillow.

[00:28:47] That's a baby Danielle.

[00:28:48] That's what it was.

[00:28:50] Move it around.

[00:28:53] It was like the baby belly from 10 things I hate about you.

[00:28:57] Just, it was worse than that.

[00:29:00] It was pillows because I think even in this scene

[00:29:03] where they like think about them being older

[00:29:07] and being mothers,

[00:29:08] there's like one of them has,

[00:29:10] oh it's melsy,

[00:29:12] sporty spice has a pillow

[00:29:16] because not even like a fat suit.

[00:29:18] It literally looks like the pillow,

[00:29:20] they're like let's use the same pillow.

[00:29:22] If you make her look like she's fat now,

[00:29:25] yet still exercising.

[00:29:27] Question.

[00:29:30] And this is a quick shoot.

[00:29:31] They didn't have a lot of time to think these things out.

[00:29:33] That's true.

[00:29:34] This is their lemonade.

[00:29:36] This is their visual album.

[00:29:37] I'm sick of them calling it a movie.

[00:29:39] There's no plot.

[00:29:40] The only thing is that they gotta get to a show

[00:29:45] and their friend is pregnant.

[00:29:46] That's it.

[00:29:47] And they're so kids are there.

[00:29:49] There's the subplot of it being a movie in a movie.

[00:29:52] Yeah, that's it.

[00:29:53] There were so many subplots.

[00:29:55] I'm like where are we?

[00:29:56] And then at the end,

[00:29:57] I was like so were we in the movie the whole time

[00:30:00] that they were pitching?

[00:30:02] Like I was so confused and I'm like okay,

[00:30:04] so they're all super uber famous,

[00:30:07] but they haven't done it or yet.

[00:30:09] They're going on their first tour.

[00:30:12] Then it's like the editor of like

[00:30:16] the equivalent of the son wants scoop on them,

[00:30:21] but they want like negative light,

[00:30:23] nothing positive about the spice girls.

[00:30:25] And then you have George Wentz

[00:30:27] like pitching a movie the whole time

[00:30:30] and then you have them just living on a bus

[00:30:35] which is the Tartus.

[00:30:37] He is.

[00:30:37] That's what it is.

[00:30:39] I'm about the same thing.

[00:30:40] It's the girl's head.

[00:30:41] Yeah, see you down the inside.

[00:30:43] It's cool.

[00:30:46] Also there's an alien subplot

[00:30:49] and it's also dirty

[00:30:50] a little bit.

[00:30:51] How did this first of all with the scene behind Jackie

[00:30:54] and the aliens going to touch scary Melby's boob?

[00:31:00] How did this get a PG rating?

[00:31:02] Yeah.

[00:31:03] You can touch one or two.

[00:31:05] One of you loves.

[00:31:06] That's it.

[00:31:07] If you give it yeah, touch both

[00:31:10] that would have really pumped it up.

[00:31:12] I will say that in England and Europe

[00:31:15] I've been to England many times.

[00:31:16] My mom's best friend works for the work

[00:31:18] for the BBC for many years.

[00:31:19] So I got to visit their TV stations and stuff.

[00:31:23] It is a much more relaxed atmosphere

[00:31:26] regarding sexuality, newty, which...

[00:31:29] You know what I was a little disappointed about?

[00:31:32] And I don't know if it was because there's five spice girls

[00:31:35] and then there's the other lady there like,

[00:31:39] I don't know what for Roe Debra.

[00:31:41] But I felt like it would have been

[00:31:43] there could have been more female cameos.

[00:31:47] I felt very like male driven.

[00:31:50] But it makes sense that we know that's a man.

[00:31:54] Thanks, Kim.

[00:31:55] You really thought this out?

[00:31:59] That's a really good commenter.

[00:32:00] I didn't think about that.

[00:32:01] But you're quite right.

[00:32:03] Because I was just looking at it from a lens of like

[00:32:07] who were my favorite people that I want cameos

[00:32:10] from not like oh this is a girl

[00:32:14] like a women's movie for mostly women,

[00:32:17] maybe Peter to them.

[00:32:20] But I feel and I feel like also they could have gone younger.

[00:32:22] All the people that were in here were yeah,

[00:32:25] they're UK legends but they're old as fuck

[00:32:28] even for that time period.

[00:32:29] Like, and we get Robbie Williams.

[00:32:33] I mean he did say that he slept

[00:32:35] before out of five spice girls

[00:32:39] even though he had to back that up

[00:32:42] and say he apologized.

[00:32:43] He only slept with two which I was shocked.

[00:32:47] I didn't know that he dated Melcy for a minute

[00:32:50] and then we, I think more recently

[00:32:53] with his Netflix documentary

[00:32:56] we found out like how serious

[00:32:58] his relationship with Jerry was.

[00:33:02] But for all of you guys who don't know

[00:33:04] who the hell Robbie Williams is

[00:33:05] he's like I don't even want to say Justin Timberlake

[00:33:09] but I guess the equivalent of just like

[00:33:12] how famous he was in England when he was in take that.

[00:33:16] Yeah and because we have to think Robbie Williams

[00:33:20] and take that because if it wasn't for them

[00:33:22] we wouldn't have been sick so just say yeah.

[00:33:26] Robbie Williams.

[00:33:28] Trying to say if there's,

[00:33:30] I do love the line where they're like

[00:33:33] poke and fun at posh

[00:33:34] and they're like oh she's trying to figure out

[00:33:38] where she's gonna wear the little Gucci black dress

[00:33:40] the little Gucci black dress or the little girl.

[00:33:42] A real Gucci black dress

[00:33:45] and then Emma from recording.

[00:33:47] I think he should wear the little black Gucci dress.

[00:33:53] So I think when we were younger

[00:33:55] I just thought Emma the whole thing about Emma

[00:33:58] was just really cute but now I think about it.

[00:34:01] I'm like it's real,

[00:34:04] it is real creepy as fuck.

[00:34:07] She was appealing to Japanese fans.

[00:34:10] It's not even just Japanese.

[00:34:11] It she had a lollipop in her mouth

[00:34:14] in almost a hallucinocene.

[00:34:16] Yeah.

[00:34:17] Oh wait, Hang on, Paul is so I mean that on the recording

[00:34:22] so do you all remember the spice girls lollipops?

[00:34:28] Yes no.

[00:34:29] No.

[00:34:30] Oh my god.

[00:34:31] They were in like a little machine

[00:34:32] and they spun on their own right?

[00:34:34] No, no, no.

[00:34:36] So I think what was that?

[00:34:38] It was like chopper chop or something.

[00:34:39] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:34:40] But it was at the time and said they were

[00:34:42] with a little regular classic round

[00:34:45] with the little thing around it like a side like a satin

[00:34:48] but it was right on the bottom

[00:34:51] and clear white for the top half.

[00:34:54] And you could see a little picture

[00:34:56] of a spice girl through the top.

[00:34:57] It was printed on her

[00:34:59] and they were the most delicious strawberry flavor.

[00:35:02] It was probably just sugar.

[00:35:04] I just like straight up sugar but it was delicious.

[00:35:09] We're also fucking impossible to fight.

[00:35:11] Like I had my grandmother,

[00:35:13] I was like listen Helen,

[00:35:16] Grandma and you have a mission.

[00:35:19] I need you to go to every store in the vicinity

[00:35:23] and round up as many of those as you can get.

[00:35:25] She also by the way did the same thing

[00:35:27] for the baby's when they were in the closet.

[00:35:31] I introduced sent us a picture

[00:35:32] and they look amazing.

[00:35:34] I don't know how I missed that.

[00:35:36] 24 stickers to collect.

[00:35:38] But I think one of the things

[00:35:39] that was amazing about the spice girls,

[00:35:42] yes, they were only around for a short period of time

[00:35:45] but the team behind them was really smart

[00:35:48] about merchandising.

[00:35:50] They became the richest group of all time

[00:35:54] at the, I think they're still pretty high up there.

[00:35:57] I don't know what the stats are

[00:35:59] but I think before them,

[00:36:00] new kids on the block had the market covered cornered

[00:36:04] and I don't even think getting it back she boys.

[00:36:09] I think back she boys made the most money

[00:36:11] from their albums and stuff like that from sales

[00:36:14] but I think from merchandising,

[00:36:16] spice girls killed the game.

[00:36:19] They were on everything.

[00:36:23] Hey Maya, the will to make money

[00:36:26] and Melcy said in her memoir

[00:36:28] a lot of it had to do with gender,

[00:36:31] like choose a pain in the ass

[00:36:33] but like because she was pushing so much for so much stuff,

[00:36:37] it's what got them to where they need to be.

[00:36:40] Not that it was just gender

[00:36:42] but like it was a very big contributing factor to it.

[00:36:46] It says they sold 105 million records worldwide

[00:36:49] so they're the best selling girl group of all time.

[00:36:52] Yeah, that's a surprise.

[00:36:54] Three albums, only three albums.

[00:36:57] It's crazy.

[00:36:58] That's so really the third album is just the four of them

[00:37:01] and that's last one.

[00:37:02] So there was another one, I thought there was a fourth

[00:37:04] but maybe not there's the...

[00:37:05] There may have been a more recent one but...

[00:37:08] It makes more sense that Kim is a man now

[00:37:12] because there isn't where men are fighting

[00:37:15] over which spice girl is their favorite

[00:37:19] and not like in a innocent way

[00:37:23] and I was like, oh that doesn't feel great.

[00:37:30] Okay so they have spice

[00:37:33] that's the first album,

[00:37:36] second album, Spice World, third album forever

[00:37:40] and they did a greatest hits

[00:37:42] but I don't think I see anything else.

[00:37:46] What was Haloran?

[00:37:47] Was that on forever?

[00:37:48] I think so.

[00:37:50] Is that dark child?

[00:37:51] Who made that one?

[00:37:53] I love that song.

[00:37:55] I was like, yo what's going on?

[00:37:56] Why are we good?

[00:37:58] Why would break it up?

[00:37:59] This is hot.

[00:38:00] I love it.

[00:38:01] So...

[00:38:02] They didn't listen to me.

[00:38:04] In the movie in between these ridiculous scenes

[00:38:08] and non-sensical plot or lack thereof,

[00:38:12] we also get them singing.

[00:38:15] And so the first scene where we see them singing

[00:38:20] there in like a rehearsal space

[00:38:22] and even today I'm like,

[00:38:26] I love that Mel B is wearing an astronaut suit

[00:38:31] but also why?

[00:38:33] What?

[00:38:36] I missed that part.

[00:38:37] I must have.

[00:38:38] I'm not a NASA codon.

[00:38:39] I remember that.

[00:38:40] Yeah.

[00:38:41] Oh it's like that big bubble jacket.

[00:38:43] She doesn't have like this.

[00:38:45] Yeah.

[00:38:46] If she does take it off after she gets...

[00:38:49] Yeah, but...

[00:38:50] Because it's fucking hot in there probably.

[00:38:51] But you know the funny thing is I didn't...

[00:38:54] Bitch, I know you're hot.

[00:38:56] I just thought it was so cool.

[00:38:58] I was like, I love it.

[00:38:59] She looks awesome in that.

[00:39:00] She does.

[00:39:01] And I love that.

[00:39:02] I love how she really look as an African-American woman.

[00:39:08] We are all in our natural phases right now.

[00:39:10] Like we are embracing our natural hair

[00:39:13] and at the time and I know especially

[00:39:16] for a lot of like mixed girls

[00:39:18] and in the 90s a lot of us had to like straighten our hair.

[00:39:22] Like that was the thing for most of us.

[00:39:25] So when she came out

[00:39:26] and she was just like letting her hair just be free

[00:39:29] with her natural curls

[00:39:31] and she did really cute things.

[00:39:33] She did bantu knots like...

[00:39:36] Not a lot of...

[00:39:37] You didn't see a lot of visuals of that

[00:39:39] in the mainstream where it was just like totally okay.

[00:39:43] And I think she made it okay for a lot of black women

[00:39:47] to wear their natural kinky hair.

[00:39:49] And I commend it like rewatching this movie.

[00:39:53] I'm like, damn, I didn't realize.

[00:39:55] And she was just doing really fun things with her hair.

[00:39:58] I think one of those outfits you see

[00:40:00] like the two like cones in the front.

[00:40:03] She said she's like cups and wrapped her hair with ribbon.

[00:40:06] And a lot of the things that they did,

[00:40:08] they were just like makeshift stuff they were doing themselves.

[00:40:11] They were just very ahead of the game

[00:40:15] when it came to fashion on their own.

[00:40:16] I really admire that.

[00:40:19] That's my favorite hairstyle of any of them, by the way.

[00:40:22] The one with the...

[00:40:23] Is it they called space buns?

[00:40:25] Is that the little ones that she did?

[00:40:28] The two on the front.

[00:40:29] Oh, I don't know what...

[00:40:31] Because space buns are usually like here

[00:40:33] but I mean, you get to call it.

[00:40:34] I don't know what she...

[00:40:35] She didn't even have a name for it.

[00:40:37] She did just like...

[00:40:38] It was just so cute.

[00:40:40] She did a great job.

[00:40:41] But she did.

[00:40:43] Oh, so it only took a year

[00:40:46] from the idea to the finish of this film.

[00:40:48] So when we were saying it was quick...

[00:40:51] I think it was like 30 days to shoot.

[00:40:52] Like I think they shot the whole thing in like a month.

[00:40:55] But...

[00:40:56] I remember hearing that a long time ago

[00:40:57] that it was like a very fast shoot.

[00:40:59] And you're...

[00:41:00] It was real time basically.

[00:41:01] Yeah, you know.

[00:41:02] It's shot over the weekend.

[00:41:05] They had the film crew follow them on their daily activities.

[00:41:09] And what's crazy is that they were...

[00:41:10] They were recording their album at the same time

[00:41:13] as they were making this film.

[00:41:15] And so some of the songs weren't finished yet.

[00:41:18] So they would have to like either go back and put it in

[00:41:21] or like do it in real time.

[00:41:23] Like that I think isn't saying.

[00:41:25] That's a lot of stress.

[00:41:28] But also...

[00:41:29] This is a visual album before the release.

[00:41:31] It's an 8.

[00:41:32] It really was because they didn't make a soundtrack for this movie.

[00:41:36] It literally was just their...

[00:41:39] It's Biceold CD.

[00:41:41] I think there's only one song...

[00:41:43] Maybe I think there's one song that wasn't on that

[00:41:46] or it wasn't in the movie or something like that.

[00:41:49] What is your favorite performance of a song in this movie?

[00:41:52] And why is it come on?

[00:41:54] It is!

[00:41:55] Like honestly, when I was in college...

[00:41:57] That feels like a good one as well.

[00:41:58] Yeah.

[00:41:59] I used to listen to this song

[00:42:01] and it wasn't until I realized who Gary Glitter was

[00:42:05] and what he did that I felt absolutely horrified

[00:42:09] that I had been obsessed with this fucking song.

[00:42:12] And he was...

[00:42:13] But I mean, this performance top notch

[00:42:16] in those dancers had a name.

[00:42:18] Let me find what they called them.

[00:42:21] What they came out...

[00:42:23] What'd you say?

[00:42:24] I was just going to say when you dance in Milan

[00:42:26] half naked Sailor Man dance by?

[00:42:28] I'm not mad at it.

[00:42:31] No, no.

[00:42:32] Again, I was just like PG.

[00:42:34] Okay.

[00:42:35] Here's where...

[00:42:37] When the title...

[00:42:38] You know how the little green screen

[00:42:40] with the rating comes up and it tells you kind of

[00:42:43] why it was rated that way?

[00:42:45] It's like grief nudity.

[00:42:46] I'm like, there's no nudity.

[00:42:48] It is.

[00:42:49] Oh, the buns.

[00:42:51] Yes, absolutely.

[00:42:54] That's so funny because I remember saying

[00:42:57] really nudity.

[00:42:58] What's that nudity?

[00:43:00] One man in Asseless Chaps, no nudity.

[00:43:03] Ten man in Asseless Chaps, nudity.

[00:43:06] Yes.

[00:43:08] It's a glam rock musician Gary Glitter

[00:43:10] filmed a four minute cameo appearance as himself

[00:43:13] but shortly before release he was arrested

[00:43:15] on child pornography offenses.

[00:43:18] The Spice Girls and the production team agreed

[00:43:20] that his cameo should be deleted from the final print

[00:43:23] although the band does perform his song.

[00:43:27] I'm leader of the gang, I am.

[00:43:29] So Glitter Scene has been leaked online

[00:43:32] and I don't care to see it, but Gary Glitter.

[00:43:34] But love that fucking song.

[00:43:36] But it's such a pub song because like it goes like...

[00:43:42] Come on, come on.

[00:43:44] Like it then it just starts...

[00:43:45] You're like, yes!

[00:43:46] I have a leader of the band!

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[00:44:54] She's funny that Jerry just apologized

[00:44:57] recently, more recently for leaving the band.

[00:45:00] I still don't, does anyone understand why she left

[00:45:03] because I'm still confused?

[00:45:04] She big, I guess.

[00:45:06] You know, why does anybody leave?

[00:45:09] I don't know.

[00:45:12] That's why I'm asking.

[00:45:13] Yeah, I'm so confused.

[00:45:15] Well it says in her Wikipedia

[00:45:16] she was citing exhaustion and creative differences.

[00:45:19] I mean consistently, I mean the two people

[00:45:22] who have been kind of in and out,

[00:45:25] it has just been Victoria and Jerry.

[00:45:27] The rest of them have been really consistent.

[00:45:32] Go figure the two that are the richest.

[00:45:34] Right?

[00:45:36] Let me know if they please.

[00:45:37] Yeah.

[00:45:39] There should be a little tiny little tick

[00:45:41] for when Victoria came back from the Olympics though.

[00:45:45] Yeah.

[00:45:47] Yeah, that was...

[00:45:48] I like almost cried when that happened.

[00:45:50] I was very excited.

[00:45:52] So good.

[00:45:53] I love they little buses driving around.

[00:45:56] They were riding like surfing the buses.

[00:45:59] It was a great performance and I mean,

[00:46:05] honestly, I know nobody performed for Prince Charles really,

[00:46:08] but if I was hoping for anything,

[00:46:11] I was like, oh maybe the Spice Girls will come for it,

[00:46:14] but like everyone said no.

[00:46:16] But the amount of times that these women got to hang out

[00:46:20] or like had pictures with the royal family

[00:46:23] and just like did zero of the things

[00:46:25] you're supposed to do when you're with the royal family

[00:46:28] is insane.

[00:46:29] Also what was my brain rent free is the fact

[00:46:33] that there's a picture of the Spice Girls

[00:46:35] with Nelson Mandela and Prince Charles or King Charles now.

[00:46:41] It...

[00:46:42] I look at the picture and it looks like it's Photoshopped

[00:46:46] in my head like this can't be real.

[00:46:48] And the fact that Nelson Mandela said

[00:46:50] it was one of the best moments of his life.

[00:46:52] Sir, what now?

[00:46:53] His life and that man is worth a life.

[00:46:56] But he's the Spice Girls.

[00:46:57] He ended up apartheid and then he met the Spice Girls.

[00:47:00] It was very big.

[00:47:03] That is insane.

[00:47:07] That is insane.

[00:47:08] He backed from the dead

[00:47:09] because everybody was dead

[00:47:10] because the Mandela effect,

[00:47:11] I'll look at Spice Girls now.

[00:47:13] That's it.

[00:47:14] But he is dead.

[00:47:16] Well now...

[00:47:17] Oh, me and that.

[00:47:20] He wasn't then.

[00:47:21] Not the first time.

[00:47:24] Not the first time.

[00:47:26] Oh my God, Jackie, you know what cameo would have like

[00:47:29] blew my mind?

[00:47:30] Was that Jason Isaacs was supposed to have a cameo

[00:47:34] as a pretentious author and it was cut

[00:47:38] and so many of these men that were asked to be

[00:47:41] in these cameos were like,

[00:47:42] I don't know who they are or I don't really care

[00:47:45] my kids made me do it.

[00:47:46] I did do for my kids.

[00:47:47] I had to get signatures.

[00:47:48] Y'all a fucking lie.

[00:47:50] You tell them me they don't see these hot chicks

[00:47:54] and are like, yeah, I'm being this movie

[00:47:55] but I'm going to say it's for my kids.

[00:47:57] Well, in it would have been a Harry Potter reunion

[00:48:01] because Gary Oldman also wanted to be in the movie

[00:48:05] and due to scheduling he couldn't do it.

[00:48:08] Gary Oldman cracks me the fuck up

[00:48:10] because he has gone on record

[00:48:13] so many times talking about the movies

[00:48:15] that he's like, I don't want to be in there

[00:48:16] but I had to be in it.

[00:48:19] Like I think what did he say?

[00:48:20] Fifth element.

[00:48:21] Fifth element.

[00:48:22] He was like, I don't want to be it

[00:48:23] but he was trying to get into spice world.

[00:48:26] That's what I loved at me.

[00:48:27] Yeah.

[00:48:28] Also Elvis Costello and Elton John.

[00:48:31] Brad Pitt was there.

[00:48:31] Yes.

[00:48:34] And Elton West was in it too.

[00:48:36] Towards the end of the movie we get

[00:48:40] oh, it's right before the alien scene

[00:48:43] all the toilets break on the bus at the same time.

[00:48:47] And so we get that throwaway line from Mr. Me

[00:48:51] where they're like, why don't you just fix the toilets

[00:48:55] Clifford is the one that says that

[00:48:57] and he's like, I love those girls

[00:48:59] and I'll do anything for them but I won't do that.

[00:49:03] And it just took me back to a time

[00:49:05] where I had that single on cassette

[00:49:08] and I played the shit out of that song.

[00:49:11] It is a masterpiece.

[00:49:13] Let me tell you, you know how much I love Glee?

[00:49:17] Anytime Glee did a meatloaf song

[00:49:20] a bitch was losing it every time.

[00:49:26] I thought you were gonna be judging about that with me

[00:49:29] but you're right there with me.

[00:49:31] Okay good.

[00:49:31] I love meatloaf.

[00:49:33] He is such an unsung hero.

[00:49:39] I don't think he gets enough love.

[00:49:41] I mean, paradise by the dashboard light.

[00:49:44] Let me tell you, they sang it at Nationals, Anglic.

[00:49:50] That's all his perfection.

[00:49:52] Again, I still think it's crazy how much

[00:49:55] because I remember when I was younger

[00:49:57] how obsessed I was with Prince William

[00:50:00] and I knew that he loved baby spice a lot like obsessed

[00:50:05] and so I just think it's hilarious

[00:50:06] that Prince Charles, Prince William and Prince Harry

[00:50:10] all went to the spice world premiere

[00:50:13] and I just tried to envision them watching this movie

[00:50:16] and what they thought like.

[00:50:20] Could you imagine going to the premiere

[00:50:22] of this movie to sit through the whole thing

[00:50:23] and you're like, what the fuck is going on?

[00:50:26] I mean, the boy's probably liked it.

[00:50:28] I would assume yeah.

[00:50:29] It's royalty visiting royalty, you know.

[00:50:31] They're British people to this point.

[00:50:35] Yeah, they may be spice girls longer

[00:50:38] than you know the king is king at this point.

[00:50:40] We'll see.

[00:50:41] It's still looking so true.

[00:50:42] But also they did mention Princess Diana

[00:50:45] and Versace in this movie

[00:50:48] but they had to edit them out post-production

[00:50:51] because of their deaths shortly

[00:50:52] before the release of the movie, which like it was,

[00:50:56] that was such a sad time

[00:50:57] because I remember,

[00:50:59] Versace died and I know Princess Diana was sad about

[00:51:02] because they were very close

[00:51:05] and she attended the funeral

[00:51:07] and like she was very, very hurt by it.

[00:51:10] And that was very shortly before her passing.

[00:51:14] Apparently Kim, you know, notorious KAM.

[00:51:18] He had to revise the script many times

[00:51:21] to accommodate the growing number of celebrities

[00:51:23] hoping to take part in the film.

[00:51:26] I want to see this script

[00:51:27] because I don't even, I think the whole thing

[00:51:30] was ad-libbed at this point.

[00:51:31] Yeah, like what was real?

[00:51:34] I would not be shocked at all

[00:51:36] if they just had like outlines of scenes

[00:51:39] that like, okay, we're gonna shoot this

[00:51:42] because I felt like they were going in the direction

[00:51:45] or the vein of like hard days night.

[00:51:47] Things like that where it's just super campy

[00:51:50] really not a linear plot or anything like that.

[00:51:54] Some people hold spice walls in high regard

[00:51:58] and others are like, what the hell is this?

[00:52:01] But either way you go,

[00:52:03] I think it was just a play on, like Danielle said,

[00:52:06] like a visual album.

[00:52:10] Well, I think one, every band

[00:52:14] who's having like the level of a spice girl

[00:52:17] should have done a movie.

[00:52:18] Like I really hate that in sync

[00:52:21] and Backsheep Boys didn't do some sort of movie.

[00:52:24] I know in some, they did that long shot thing

[00:52:28] a little bit, they made some cameos.

[00:52:30] But I think every band should either do

[00:52:32] a documentary style movie or something camping like this

[00:52:37] because it's just such a wonderful time capsule.

[00:52:41] I know it's silly, but years later you can look back

[00:52:44] at it and just be like that was amazing.

[00:52:47] You know?

[00:52:48] Yeah, I would have loved that

[00:52:49] but I also think it's funny

[00:52:51] that there are some people like Billie Eilish

[00:52:53] who didn't know that the spice girls were a real band.

[00:52:57] She thought they were like a fake band,

[00:53:00] like spinal tap,

[00:53:02] had a fake band.

[00:53:03] Like she thought it was a band for the movie kind of

[00:53:07] because remember how much younger she is than us.

[00:53:09] So that's crazy.

[00:53:12] I'm sad and I'm also possibly realizing

[00:53:14] that spinal tap is fake.

[00:53:16] Things have happened to me at the same time.

[00:53:20] I also love the Emma Stone.

[00:53:23] Love the spice girl so much

[00:53:24] and loved baby spice was her favorite.

[00:53:27] Her real name is Emily and so she's like,

[00:53:31] I just wanted to be called Emma.

[00:53:33] I would go to school and ask to be called Emma

[00:53:36] and look at me now.

[00:53:39] So I watched that interview.

[00:53:41] I love that interview so much.

[00:53:42] Does anybody else see that?

[00:53:43] Yeah, well, is it the limited fare?

[00:53:46] No, it's what you call it.

[00:53:48] Oh, okay.

[00:53:49] Jimmy Fallon goes in easily,

[00:53:51] so you're a huge spice girls band

[00:53:53] and she kind of tells the story.

[00:53:55] And he goes, so you know Emma,

[00:53:58] it's extremely rare to have all five spice girls

[00:54:04] together at one time and she's like,

[00:54:07] Jimmy, no, Jimmy, no, no.

[00:54:10] No, it's like, well they're not.

[00:54:12] It's so good.

[00:54:18] I'm setting both ways for her.

[00:54:21] I feel like if you have met all five spice girls,

[00:54:26] it's like getting all the rings.

[00:54:28] Yes.

[00:54:30] The rings that Thanos was trying to collect, essentially.

[00:54:34] Yeah, the Infinity Stones.

[00:54:36] Yeah.

[00:54:37] I nearly went to one of their concerts actually.

[00:54:40] It was really fun.

[00:54:41] 2007, 2008 when they reunited,

[00:54:43] they did a concert in DC and it was right around

[00:54:46] the time I started dating my life

[00:54:47] and she was going to take me to it in Washington, DC

[00:54:50] and I was like,

[00:54:52] I just told myself, I was like,

[00:54:55] surely this is foolish.

[00:54:57] I'm a man in my 20s.

[00:54:58] I don't need to go see the spice girls.

[00:55:00] Regrets, regrets, regrets.

[00:55:03] Curly pop.

[00:55:04] I should have gone.

[00:55:06] I was so desperate for one of those fucking tickets

[00:55:09] when they were, I think it was like,

[00:55:12] it was truly in 1997.

[00:55:14] Ish, when they had their first tour and my little bitch friend,

[00:55:19] her parents got them for her birthday.

[00:55:22] And I was like, are you taking?

[00:55:24] Who are you taking?

[00:55:26] Because who's also a huge spice girls fan?

[00:55:30] That's not your brother.

[00:55:32] Oh my gosh.

[00:55:33] I do feel like I have way more appreciation for them now

[00:55:38] than I did back then.

[00:55:40] I really do.

[00:55:41] Which...

[00:55:44] So sad.

[00:55:45] I wish I could go back.

[00:55:46] I would be collected all this shit and just hoarding it.

[00:55:49] So I could sell it on eBay, make a shit ton of money.

[00:55:54] So any standout,

[00:55:57] from like any standout scenes from the movie

[00:56:00] for you guys, like favorite,

[00:56:01] favorite scene, favorite song.

[00:56:03] I know we've already said that.

[00:56:06] No my opinion.

[00:56:07] Yes.

[00:56:10] So I watch how the movie opened to like the Milluvius.

[00:56:13] And it's like too much.

[00:56:15] It was just that beautiful.

[00:56:17] I just really put it back.

[00:56:18] I feel like a James Bond movie, kind of.

[00:56:20] Yes.

[00:56:21] There was a lot of nods to James.

[00:56:23] I was gonna say James Brown to James Bond.

[00:56:26] I also love the scene where they were the parents.

[00:56:29] They were the best forwarded then with all being moms.

[00:56:33] Yeah.

[00:56:34] And like...

[00:56:35] kind of trashy moms.

[00:56:36] It was so fun.

[00:56:37] Just so happy.

[00:56:38] Right.

[00:56:39] I love that, that like despite their fame,

[00:56:42] them thinking of the future,

[00:56:43] they're not in some huge mansion.

[00:56:45] They're in like all stuffed into that one room.

[00:56:48] And I'm like,

[00:56:49] girls keeping it.

[00:56:50] And it's like smoky in there.

[00:56:52] And you might see it but like an empty bottle here and there.

[00:56:58] I still think my favorite scene is why like they randomly just

[00:57:03] jump off the bus and get on a boat.

[00:57:05] And then they're what do they see?

[00:57:08] My boy La Lipa such a random ass thing to be singing.

[00:57:13] And then the boat falls over and it just it reminded me of what hot

[00:57:17] American summer where they kept losing kids in different scenarios

[00:57:20] that are like, they're gone now.

[00:57:22] That made me laugh a lot.

[00:57:24] And I do love spice up your your life at the end.

[00:57:28] Yeah.

[00:57:29] That's good.

[00:57:30] I mean, the only scene I looked at was like,

[00:57:31] oh, this is a fun scene,

[00:57:33] but also ridiculous is when they went to the club.

[00:57:35] I'm like, yeah, take your nine months pregnant.

[00:57:38] I was like, I plan how to do this and for like why not?

[00:57:44] My notes for this maybe are sure chaos so like they were making the

[00:57:50] Clifford guy was making a full of the lots and one Jack you'll

[00:57:55] appreciate this because we're both skin care beans was voice

[00:57:58] drives and cream stored in the refrigerator should know or should

[00:58:01] not be stored in the refrigerator as it can be mistaken for mayonnaise.

[00:58:05] Another one or two more old cell phones weird guy sunglasses.

[00:58:11] Anybody notices those horrible 90s like wrong sunglasses?

[00:58:16] Yes, you know what scene that I also love?

[00:58:20] I thought it was so much fun when they dressed up as each other and then

[00:58:24] they were like taking on each other's personalities and they did

[00:58:28] like other montages and stuff like agrees or nods to Marilyn Monroe

[00:58:34] and stuff like that.

[00:58:36] But did anyone else notice that Mel be the character she ended up

[00:58:40] having to play was like, she was a Rastafari and then you could

[00:58:43] tell she's like fed up at one push like bucket and she had to take

[00:58:45] the big dreads off.

[00:58:47] Yeah.

[00:58:47] Then at one point in one of those scenes,

[00:58:49] she's in like African garb for some reason.

[00:58:53] Miss that.

[00:58:54] And so like there was a few of those.

[00:58:55] Like I wonder did she see.

[00:59:00] She choose this or was this put upon her?

[00:59:07] You know, there's a lot of me.

[00:59:10] Did anybody else notice who the I don't I mean there were so many

[00:59:13] like villains in this movie that don't know how to even like narrow it

[00:59:16] down for you and explain which one it was.

[00:59:18] But there was the one guy that they were like focusing in on

[00:59:21] the spit flying out of his mouth with the.

[00:59:24] He was like the evil man in an office.

[00:59:27] Oh, the newspaper guy.

[00:59:28] Newspeaker I think you do know who that was a nod to who Robert Maxwell

[00:59:34] Elaine Maxwell's dad.

[00:59:37] McMasterson or mix Mac Maxwell or whatever his name was.

[00:59:41] So he was a nod to Elaine Maxwell's father who was a

[00:59:48] disgrace newspaper baron at the time.

[00:59:51] Oh, wasn't there movie about him recently all about her.

[00:59:55] I don't know about him but they they definitely mentioned him a lot

[00:59:59] when they're talking about her because she's kind of like

[01:00:01] definitely because he was he.

[01:00:06] She's fun.

[01:00:06] A bit of an attachment.

[01:00:09] I feel like he might have been the guy in Tetris.

[01:00:11] There was a Tetris movie that came out last year, but it was

[01:00:13] about there was a British newspaper guy who like I guess was

[01:00:17] like stealing from their pension and all kind of stuff.

[01:00:20] They talked about it and that's what I thought he reminded me of that guy

[01:00:24] too because he plays and exactly like that in that movie is just big

[01:00:27] and overbearing and yeah,

[01:00:29] the story is kind of I mean,

[01:00:33] it's tragic but like how tragic is it?

[01:00:35] A few look at it so that he was actually murdered allegedly like

[01:00:38] like it was he was found drowned outside of his mega yacht somewhere

[01:00:43] when he was trying to obey the authorities.

[01:00:46] Yeah, yeah Robert Maxwell.

[01:00:48] He's in Tetris.

[01:00:48] They have somebody playing him.

[01:00:50] I thought I felt like it so I couldn't remember who the guy's name was.

[01:00:53] So I had two two random thoughts.

[01:00:58] The dance instructor Mr. Step was giving Sparky Polaski vibes.

[01:01:04] Yeah.

[01:01:05] And then yes.

[01:01:07] And then the quotes that Roger Morris character,

[01:01:13] the chief had were so fucking wacky doodle.

[01:01:18] But at this site, like he would say it and you're like,

[01:01:22] that kind of makes sense.

[01:01:25] Even though it did not I pulled up a couple.

[01:01:29] The headless chicken can only know where he's been.

[01:01:31] He can't see where he's going.

[01:01:34] They'd be the most sensible one.

[01:01:38] When the rabbit of chaos is pursued by the ferritive disorder

[01:01:41] through the fields of anarchy, it is time to hang up your pants on the hook

[01:01:45] of darkness whether they're clean or not.

[01:01:48] What?

[01:01:50] But it's funny because when he I mean,

[01:01:53] he agreed to make the cameo and then he had someone like feeding him his lines

[01:01:58] and he didn't know what the fuck was going on.

[01:02:00] He didn't know who the spiced girls were really

[01:02:02] and he's just like, all right.

[01:02:04] Oh, he's one of the worst spots.

[01:02:07] He's holding a baby pig and just bottom feeding the baby.

[01:02:13] And I think there's a part where the pig got really like anxious,

[01:02:18] like wanting to get the milk.

[01:02:19] Yeah.

[01:02:19] And you could see him almost like flinch a little bit like surprise.

[01:02:24] It's going on.

[01:02:28] I love the in the alien scene.

[01:02:30] I love honestly, I love everything about the alien, especially the really

[01:02:34] tricky green coats.

[01:02:36] Also, when Emma calls the baby a beetroot after it comes out,

[01:02:41] like I was just like what?

[01:02:44] When they show a scene of the friend holding her baby after its board,

[01:02:50] it's such a weird.

[01:02:52] Like I don't even know if it was a real baby or not.

[01:02:55] I have to go back but the way she's holding it is not in her arms,

[01:02:58] but it's like be like just like a little glow warm between her her legs or something.

[01:03:04] It's super weird.

[01:03:06] It's like what is happening?

[01:03:08] This pregnancy is a farce at this point.

[01:03:12] I believe nothing about it.

[01:03:15] I'm glad they didn't try to have her give birth while they were delivering because clearly,

[01:03:21] it was a mess.

[01:03:22] Yeah.

[01:03:25] At the end during the critics when Alan Cummings goes on and on about his chest wig,

[01:03:31] like what, what are we still talking about this?

[01:03:34] He was interviewed on Grand Norton show and he was talking about how

[01:03:40] all the spice girls signed his chest with like a marker.

[01:03:44] Like he said that he was on the floor and they all like straddled him in

[01:03:47] which is like signing or whatever.

[01:03:50] And so then I don't know where he was but it must have been like some sort of

[01:03:55] I think he went to the pool or something and then he went to go shower.

[01:03:59] But he was like in the corner like trying to scrub it off and he's like, I know

[01:04:03] people were looking at me like what the fuck are they doing?

[01:04:07] But he said he they were the nicest girls ever.

[01:04:10] He had so much fun like being on that set with them.

[01:04:15] I'm glad to hear that.

[01:04:17] Yeah.

[01:04:18] Back in the day.

[01:04:20] Yeah.

[01:04:21] Really targeted.

[01:04:22] He's one of those people that it took me a while to like him again

[01:04:25] because he was in that movie circle of friends

[01:04:28] and he was absolutely disgusting in that movie.

[01:04:34] I told him about that in a camper batch after a told them.

[01:04:38] Oh yeah.

[01:04:40] It's Kevin Baker and Bacon and sleepers for me.

[01:04:43] Oh God.

[01:04:45] I just heard about Uma Thurman and that many rubbed different reasons, but

[01:04:50] I couldn't stand until kill Bill after that.

[01:04:51] I was like, okay, this is awful.

[01:04:53] That's that's hilarious.

[01:04:55] Really?

[01:04:56] It really turned me off.

[01:04:57] I was like, no, never want to see this woman anything again.

[01:05:01] I'm with you Andrew.

[01:05:02] I didn't like that either.

[01:05:04] I keep seeing clips of her as pushing up a little to kill Bill.

[01:05:10] It's turned it all around.

[01:05:11] I can't watch it.

[01:05:16] Oh, guys, I think I mean, I think we covered spice worlds.

[01:05:21] I think so too.

[01:05:22] I mean, and the land about where sure.

[01:05:26] We came, we saw we kind of conquered the spice stuff our life.

[01:05:31] Yeah.

[01:05:32] Like we really give that none of it makes sense.

[01:05:37] I think all the scenes were just excuses to wear different outfits.

[01:05:42] That's it.

[01:05:43] And then we see them perform the entire album of spice world.

[01:05:47] This was a visual.

[01:05:49] This wasn't a movie.

[01:05:49] This was a visual album.

[01:05:53] That's what I'm going to say at this point.

[01:05:55] And if you disagree, good.

[01:05:59] But if you do disagree, just hit us up at no more late fees on Instagram,

[01:06:03] Facebook, TikTok, Twitter, YouTube and threads.

[01:06:06] And we're going to get to these present day ratings.

[01:06:09] I'm going to start with you Timmy.

[01:06:12] How does today Timmy feel about spice world?

[01:06:15] The visual album.

[01:06:16] So there's no denying that the song records for you.

[01:06:23] That's I refine again.

[01:06:25] I was it's just such a good movie.

[01:06:27] I do already own it and I will keep it that way.

[01:06:30] I love it.

[01:06:32] Andrew.

[01:06:34] I think I change it to five, you're until still pretty good.

[01:06:38] Still enjoyed it was honestly surprised that it felt pretty well acted.

[01:06:42] But like you said, maybe they weren't acting.

[01:06:44] They were just playing themselves.

[01:06:45] So I feel like it holds up, especially if you like their songs.

[01:06:48] So it's already around so still pretty good.

[01:06:51] I think reframing this from a movie to a visual album.

[01:06:56] I'm going to say by the rental because when I rewatched it,

[01:07:00] I found myself smiling and laughing and just bopping

[01:07:05] and I just had a really good time because it was just a visual album.

[01:07:10] That's it with just some weird antics in between.

[01:07:13] And it is very interesting to me that Kim Fuller helped write S Club 7

[01:07:18] because it did feel like a very long S Club 7 episode.

[01:07:22] So yeah, and I used to love that show for some reason.

[01:07:26] So there you go five, they're until I went up for me nostalgia.

[01:07:32] Jackie.

[01:07:33] So knowing that we were doing this movie and knowing that it is not streaming anywhere

[01:07:39] and very unobtainium at the moment,

[01:07:42] we go to a lot of three shops in good wells.

[01:07:47] My hunt for a space world DVD was real.

[01:07:51] I was trying to Google what the spine looked like so I could look for it on the shelf.

[01:07:56] Like per month, I was like, I need to find space world on DVD

[01:08:03] and I will continue that hunt because it just feels like something I need to have a copy of.

[01:08:10] So I would say would buy again because I haven't bought it again yet

[01:08:14] but I am actively searching for it.

[01:08:19] Dedication.

[01:08:21] I did see someone on ticked talk say that it might be on the internet archived.

[01:08:27] So I'm going to look and see if it is, I think it is.

[01:08:32] I think you can go to the internet archive and watch it.

[01:08:36] So if you're looking for a place that is, let me see, I'm just going to hit play

[01:08:41] and see if it works.

[01:08:43] It's still, that's the word.

[01:08:46] The 90s we had a whole another channel called spice and you don't want to stumble on that.

[01:08:51] So you can go to the internet archive and find space world and play it because I just did.

[01:08:57] Excellent. Good to know.

[01:08:59] Well, if you have any comments about Spice World, share us your favorite, share your favorite song or scene

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[01:09:28] And thank you to Andrew and Timmy for joining us.

[01:09:31] I hope you guys had fun.

[01:09:32] I know we've been talking about doing spice world for a while so super excited you guys can join us.

[01:09:37] Thanks guys.

[01:09:38] Thank you.

[01:09:39] And as always, be kind and rewind.

[01:09:44] I think we should all do a Spice Girls pose.

[01:09:47] I was thinking that too.

[01:09:55] Bye, you power.